May 24, 200916 yr Brown is Major MkII Brown and Major were both chancellors who took over from very successful leaders in terms of election wins Brown and Major both dull and grey and devoid of any personality Brown and Major both lost their country huge amounts of money (Black Wednesday / Banking bailouts Brown and Major both dogged by sleaze in final years Brown and Major both up against young charismatic leaders Brown will lose by a similar landslide to Major I agree with most of that tbh, Brown will lose because he is simply an utter disaster, his "financial miracle" and his reputation for "prudence" was an illusion built up on a foundation which was little better than a house of cards, and as we have seen the entire deck has come crashing to the ground, you can only blame so much on the Americans, I mean, just what the fukk did RBS, HBOS, Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley have to do with the US.....? Decisions were made by these fools and Broon that had bugger all to do with Wall St.... I dont think the expenses scandal will be forgotten tbh, the likes of the Greens, Socialists, Plaid Cymru, UKIP and SNP as well as the media will almost certainly remind us of it all, but I know I certainly wont forget it and it'll almost cerainly be a factor in how I vote, now I honestly dont know who the hell I'll vote for.... All I know is that I'm sure never voting Labour again, and I'm almost genetically hardwired to hate the Tories.....
May 24, 200916 yr I can see the SNP and the Lib Dems cleaning up in scotland. The torries only have one seat left north of the border and labour are pretty much devil's spawn right now. In a scottish election right now i reckon we'd be looking at a SNP majority. Thank f*** that ain't due for a good couple of years.
May 25, 200916 yr I agree with most of that tbh, Brown will lose because he is simply an utter disaster, his "financial miracle" and his reputation for "prudence" was an illusion built up on a foundation which was little better than a house of cards, and as we have seen the entire deck has come crashing to the ground, you can only blame so much on the Americans, I mean, just what the fukk did RBS, HBOS, Northern Rock and Bradford and Bingley have to do with the US.....? Decisions were made by these fools and Broon that had bugger all to do with Wall St.... I dont think the expenses scandal will be forgotten tbh, the likes of the Greens, Socialists, Plaid Cymru, UKIP and SNP as well as the media will almost certainly remind us of it all, but I know I certainly wont forget it and it'll almost cerainly be a factor in how I vote, now I honestly dont know who the hell I'll vote for.... All I know is that I'm sure never voting Labour again, and I'm almost genetically hardwired to hate the Tories..... It may not be forgotten but I just don't think it'll influence how people vote as much as the economy and hatred of Brown will.
May 25, 200916 yr People will vote in the General Election as they always have - there are those who would vote for a monkey if it was wearing their party's colour; those who vote presidentially for the most charismatic leader/ local candidate; those who will read only one newspaper and vote whichever way it leads; swallowing everything printed there; those who have a specific agenda e.g the economy/ ecology/crime/immigration/Europe etc. and will vote for the party who has the best manifesto pledge for that one concern; those who are concerned about a local issue and use their vote to protest about that; those who spoil their ballots and write down exactly what they think of the list of candidates or parties, and so on. We have a secret ballot in this country, so we do not have to reveal for whom we voted or why. It is ours to use or not as we please and for our own reasons. It's called democracy.
October 5, 200915 yr thought it was appropriate to ressurect this.. 5 months down the line im begining to shift my viewpoint. brown has failed to make any headway with the voting public and now cameron wants to knock long term benefit scroungers.... GOOD! (i wonder whether crazy chris will continue to vote tory :rofl: ) i now think that the tories might just scrape through....
October 6, 200915 yr thought it was appropriate to ressurect this.. 5 months down the line im begining to shift my viewpoint. brown has failed to make any headway with the voting public and now cameron wants to knock long term benefit scroungers.... GOOD! (i wonder whether crazy chris will continue to vote tory :rofl: ) i now think that the tories might just scrape through.... He is going to be £25 a week worse off for sure after Cameron comes in I reckon lol Edited October 6, 200915 yr by B.A Baracus
February 28, 201015 yr well with only a couple of months now to go, the tories opinion poll lead is all but evaporating! :lol: if the latest polls are correct then gordon brown will be returned. i dont think people like gordon brown, but respect him more then they trust boy cameron. imho brown looks like a statesman where cameron looks and sounds like 'sound byte boy', a product full of hot air and promises that the public dont believe that they can deliver.
February 28, 201015 yr well with only a couple of months now to go, the tories opinion poll lead is all but evaporating! :lol: if the latest polls are correct then gordon brown will be returned. i dont think people like gordon brown, but respect him more then they trust boy cameron. imho brown looks like a statesman where cameron looks and sounds like 'sound byte boy', a product full of hot air and promises that the public dont believe that they can deliver. I think the real reason this is happening is because all the public sector workers; immigrants and scroungers realise they will be much worse off with a Conservative Government. Whilst his appearance on the Piers Morgan show was cringe worthy and vomit inducing. Iw-1wNozHVQ He took regulation of the banks away from the BoE (after a showdown with Tony B-liar who disagreed with him doing this according to Labour spin doctor Alistair Campbell's The Blair years (2007) biography), allowing them to engage in risky financial practices - including the buying up of subprime debt and the offering of 125% mortgages. He changed the rules governing BoE management of inflation, meaning they could do nothing to keep the housing boom in check (this probably helped inflate the value of Labour MPs' property portfolios). He sold off a large chunk of our gold reserves when the value of gold was at its lowest and robbed the Private Sector Pensions to keep the Public Sector Pensions fully topped up so they can retire earlier on Final Salary schemes. Gordon Brown can go to hell.
February 28, 201015 yr maybe so richard, but id still prefer brown to boy cameron... i find cameron insincere, hes trying too hard and has nothing to support his ideas.
February 28, 201015 yr It would quite possibly be the most hilarious thing in history if Brown can win after all the disasters of the last 2 and a half years.
February 28, 201015 yr It would quite possibly be the most hilarious thing in history if Brown can win after all the disasters of the last 2 and a half years. ... but it is a distinct possibility m8.
February 28, 201015 yr He took regulation of the banks away from the BoE (after a showdown with Tony B-liar who disagreed with him doing this according to Labour spin doctor Alistair Campbell's The Blair years (2007) biography), allowing them to engage in risky financial practices - including the buying up of subprime debt and the offering of 125% mortgages. He changed the rules governing BoE management of inflation, meaning they could do nothing to keep the housing boom in check (this probably helped inflate the value of Labour MPs' property portfolios). He sold off a large chunk of our gold reserves when the value of gold was at its lowest and robbed the Private Sector Pensions to keep the Public Sector Pensions fully topped up so they can retire earlier on Final Salary schemes. Gordon Brown can go to hell. As if the Conservatives weren't cheering on the vast majority of these measures and calling for more deregulation! :rolleyes:
February 28, 201015 yr ... but it is a distinct possibility m8. I still don't see it happening. A hung parliament maybe, although I think the Lib Dems would lean towards a coalition with the Conservatives. Still, it's a huge screw up on Cameron's part that Labour have got so close in the polls. He couldn't've been given a more easy path to victory and yet he's still going to have to fight for it.
February 28, 201015 yr A hung parliament would be disastrous for Cameron and show him up for who he is - he'd have the chance of playing leader but without the full control he'd need to get away with it. If it goes to a hung parliament (I must say, I'm quite happy the polls are vindicating me on what I've been predicting for a good year now) Cameron is pretty much guaranteed to be out of power for a good four more years - unless he's toppled. Although the Conservatives would be fools to seeing as it's the party that's the problem, not the leader...(well, in public anyway :P)
February 28, 201015 yr As if the Conservatives weren't cheering on the vast majority of these measures and calling for more deregulation! :rolleyes: I would suggest you check your facts before making factually incorrect statements like this. ;)
February 28, 201015 yr I would suggest you check your facts before making factually incorrect statements like this. ;) Osborne was continuing to call for less regulation even as the banking system was going into meltdown.
February 28, 201015 yr A hung parliament would be disastrous for Cameron and show him up for who he is - he'd have the chance of playing leader but without the full control he'd need to get away with it. If it goes to a hung parliament (I must say, I'm quite happy the polls are vindicating me on what I've been predicting for a good year now) Cameron is pretty much guaranteed to be out of power for a good four more years - unless he's toppled. Although the Conservatives would be fools to seeing as it's the party that's the problem, not the leader...(well, in public anyway :P) I said the day after the last election that the next one would produce a hung parliament and I've stuck to that view ever since although I will admit that I wavered a little last year.
February 28, 201015 yr I said the day after the last election that the next one would produce a hung parliament and I've stuck to that view ever since although I will admit that I wavered a little last year. The only thing Brown has to cling on to is the fact the ecenomy is recovering pretty fast, business people I talk to such as clients and prospective clients have been saying to me the economy is picking up well so a glimmer of hope for Brown there But there is one reason why Cameron will get a working majority - The Sun Whoever The Sun supports wins elections because it has a massive hold over its readers I will revise my 150 Cameron majority but think it will be about 60
February 28, 201015 yr I would suggest you check your facts before making factually incorrect statements like this. ;) Erm, Osborne (along with several prominent Conservatives - Boris Johnson, for one) has been calling for more deregulation for quite some time now. Given it's a central tenet of fiscal conservatism and all that...
February 28, 201015 yr The only thing Brown has to cling on to is the fact the ecenomy is recovering pretty fast, business people I talk to such as clients and prospective clients have been saying to me the economy is picking up well so a glimmer of hope for Brown there But there is one reason why Cameron will get a working majority - The Sun Whoever The Sun supports wins elections because it has a massive hold over its readers I will revise my 150 Cameron majority but think it will be about 60 Really? I get the feeling these days that The Sun supports who it thinks will win rather than vice versa...
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