how many votes were cast ont he night? do we know?

 

EDIT: i read 10 million votes for the final. if this is true, say they were all on the saturday for arguments sake. stacey and olly got a combined percentage of about 48percent, which leaves joe with 52percent. so thats still over 10 million. it will be more than that because alot of them votes woulda have been cast on the sunday as well.

Eh? How is 52% of 10 million "still over 10 million"???

 

In actual fact, Joe won with 61.3% of the votes, so he got 6,130,000 votes out of the 10 million. Back to school for you :P

How would they be able to tell how many people are in a house.

There could be 50 people at a party.

 

Averages? Occupants per house hold. There is data for that.

 

Viewing figures are only based on selected data anyway, it's pretty arbitrary stuff.

Agree with everything in the calculation except the last part - Joe's multiplier is very unlikely to be as high as x5.49 as he has 5 days after 1st day sales, compared to Alexandra's 6.

 

The easy way would therefore be to pro-rata that multiplier of x5.49 by 5/6ths. but it won't be as simple as that as the shorter period will probably condense sales slightly (and the physical component of the sales has the same time period as Alexandra's - 4 days). Therefore assuming a half-way house on that, the x5.49 could be pro-rated by 5.5/6, therefore giving Joe a multiplier of x5.03. That would give his sales for the week as:- 388k.

 

EDIT: x5.49x5/6x77k = 350k, therefore I think the range he'll fall in is 350-400k).

 

EDIT EDIT: The "race" for #1 being so keenly contested could actually put him higher than this figure. Too many unknowns ...

 

I'd downgrade that to 250-300k. Joe's downloads will fade once the CD is out, and that won't do much more than 100-150k.

Eh? How is 52% of 10 million "still over 10 million"???

 

In actual fact, Joe won with 61.3% of the votes, so he got 6,130,000 votes out of the 10 million. Back to school for you :P

 

I think the 10m votes also includes Stacey votes. It was a rolling figure. Then you have to take into account a lot of people would have voted for an individual more than once - some individuals will have voted for more than one person too.

I thought 10 million was the votes for the entire series.

Eh? How is 52% of 10 million "still over 10 million"???

 

In actual fact, Joe won with 61.3% of the votes, so he got 6,130,000 votes out of the 10 million. Back to school for you :P

 

i edited it before your post came up. i meant over 5 million. for some reaosn i halfed the viewers. the point i was making is when its worked out rage against the machines 750k members having 10percent of the people buying the single is good,because people were slagging it but if you look at it its doing ok if you compare the size of each campaign.

Agree with everything in the calculation except the last part - Joe's multiplier is very unlikely to be as high as x5.49 as he has 5 days after 1st day sales, compared to Alexandra's 6.

 

The easy way would therefore be to pro-rata that multiplier of x5.49 by 5/6ths. but it won't be as simple as that as the shorter period will probably condense sales slightly (and the physical component of the sales has the same time period as Alexandra's - 4 days). Therefore assuming a half-way house on that, the x5.49 could be pro-rated by 5.5/6, therefore giving Joe a multiplier of x5.03. That would give his sales for the week as:- 388k.

 

EDIT: x5.49x5/6x77k = 350k, therefore I think the range he'll fall in is 350-400k).

 

EDIT EDIT: The "race" for #1 being so keenly contested could actually put him higher than this figure. Too many unknowns ...

Agree with it, 350-400k is more likely. :)

 

Also agree with the "race". I've just realised what a clever manipulative move Sony had! :lol: Without this race Sony wouldn't lose only just RATM sales but also they would lose the extra sales for Joe (e.g. see Bertie's post about buying an extra copy of his single because she isn't too sure about him being #1). Epic win for Sony and globalisated culture and epic fail for the others. :(

Edited December 15, 200916 yr by Arrs

I think the 10m votes also includes Stacey votes. It was a rolling figure. Then you have to take into account a lot of people would have voted for an individual more than once - some individuals will have voted for more than one person too.

Yes, you're right (just checked) - the 61.3% was just the Joe v Olly vote.

 

So Joe actually got less than 61.3% of the 10 million total - so still way less than 10 million votes for Joe though :D

I think the 10m votes also includes Stacey votes. It was a rolling figure. Then you have to take into account a lot of people would have voted for an individual more than once - some individuals will have voted for more than one person too.

 

i took into accoutn staceys. also, people buy cds and downloads. and some people would have voted once and some more than once and some people who didnt vote will probably buy the single. it works all different ways.

Edit: Why Christmas songs are falling.

 

^ Because everyone downloaded them in 2004, and 05, and 06, and 07, and 08...

 

 

It's a shame the public never got the Pogues to number 1 :( How much have they sold since 2005, 300k?

Edited December 15, 200916 yr by John_Squire

For anyone interested, this is how Leon Jackson progressed...

 

Tuesday: Not in the midweeks

Wednesday: 36,700

Thursday: 115,000

Friday: 171,700

Sunday (Overall): 275,742

 

Can't remember why he didn't feature on Tuesday, and his sales by Wednesday (download only) seem very poor.

what did it do in its lifetime?

I can't see any one of the old grannies that buy Joe thinking 'Oh I better buy two copies of this when I go to Tesco so RATM doesn't get to number one'

 

PLEASE.

Edited December 15, 200916 yr by Berty

How would they be able to tell how many people are in a house.

There could be 50 people at a party.

A number of households have a box which records what is being shown on the television at the time. Each member of the household has to use a switch (or something like that) to indicate whether they are actually watching the programme. They then extrapolate the figure to estimate how many people were watching across the country. I don't know whether they allow for additional people who are not members of the household.

did someone say they would? i dont think anyone will buy 2 cds either (well i guess someone would) but i do think some people who have dowloaded it will buy the cd as well.

 

EDIT: oh i think i see now hehe lol

Edited December 15, 200916 yr by scott

For anyone who is interested Shayne Ward sold 313,000 on its first day ultimately selling 762,000 for the week.

I can't see any one of the old grannies that buy Joe thinking 'Oh I better buy two copies of this when I go to Tesco so RATM doesn't get to number one'

 

PLEASE.

 

why do people think it is old grannies watching x factor, it skews a young audience and it is mainly female, these are also the demo that buy cd singles still and are most likely (along with gay guys) to buy multiple copies of things.

did someone say they would? i dont think anyone will buy 2 cds either (well i guess someone would) but i do think some people who have dowloaded it will buy the cd as well.

 

Yeh someone in this thread said now Joe fans can see the competition they will buy it twice.

For anyone interested, this is how Leon Jackson progressed...

 

Tuesday: Not in the midweeks

Wednesday: 36,700

Thursday: 115,000

Friday: 171,700

Sunday (Overall): 275,742

 

Can't remember why he didn't feature on Tuesday, and his sales by Wednesday (download only) seem very poor.

 

Joe will easily beat Leon's total, but that's obvious, because Leon was p!sh and joe is actually half-decent.

 

 

what did it do in its lifetime?

Last figure I had (Leon Jackson WYB) was 477,567 from 20 October. But I didn't put 2008 or 2009 next to that so it could be either (I think 2008 though). I'm pretty sure its not over 500k yet.

why do people think it is old grannies watching x factor, it skews a young audience and it is mainly female, these are also the demo that buy cd singles still and are most likely (along with gay guys) to buy multiple copies of things.

 

Actually, I got my figures from a poll that was done nationwide last week which stated that 60% of Joe voters were in the 60+ range.