Well I do hope it isn't a matter of life and death then.

 

G'Night all!!

I'm writing it as we speak! :P

:cheer:

I was tipped off on this announcement by an annonymous whistle blower.

Aaron!!!!!!

Due to an increasing amount of dissent within the contest in recent months with the originality of many/a select few prominent entries, and worries over the effects upon the quality of contests that entries which in all likelihood are being introduced to either no, or very few contestants are having, the moderating team, in collaboration with former moderators, has come to a compromise which we think will add an element of risk to the selection of 'uninspired' entries, along with a few clauses and the extension of a current rule.

 

Therefore, as of bjsc_twentyfour//, the following rules will come into play:

 

- Any tracks from the current album of an artist with an ACTIVE (i.e., not archived) Artist Forum on BuzzJack are not eligible for entry into the BJSC, until the release of the next album. Deluxe editions count as being one and the same as the current era - for example, tracks from The Fame AND The Fame Monster are ineligible for entry into the BJSC until the release of Lady GaGa's next album. B-sides and Live Lounge covers et al are all still permitted for entry.

- The moderators reserve the right to compose a ban-list for each contest. We hope we won't have to use this right for every contest, but we felt it was getting a bit silly when people could predict the winners of the next contest before the one before had even started its finals. Obviously, tracks on these ban-lists will be forbidden. We do promise to use them sparingly - you aren't going to see us whipping out the ban-list at even the slightest hint of cheapness, only for the big offenders :P

 

And, onto the big change:

 

- Other than tracks which fall under the jurisdiction of the above two rules (and any already in place), you are permitted to send anything! However, beware. Should, during the progress of a contest, your entry/its video end up on any of the following charts/lists, your track will be disqualified with immediate effect:

- The Radio 1 Playlist (A, B, and C, but not Up-Front)

- The MTV Hits playlist (A, B, and C, but not Brand New): http://www.mtv.co.uk/channels/mtv-hits/playlist

- The Top 40 of the UK iTunes or the UK Singles Chart

- The Top 5 of the Billboard Hot 100

 

Cases where tracks have ended up on these lists by complete surprise (we're thinking Rage Against The Machine style take-offs, or for example, if MTV Hits were to promote Eliza Doolittle to the C list or something) will be considered and reviewed by the moderating team, but be prepared to argue your case strongly and don't count on being given leeway by virtue of the fact that the contest has already started or whatever.

 

We hope that by introducing an element of the gamble entrants will consider their entries more carefully in future. In order to accommodate for these changes, if anybody has confirmed a track which becomes ineligible before the beginning of the contest, they will be permitted one free change (which may or may not be necessary, depending on whether the host has decided to ban entry changes or not).

 

These rules do not apply to spin-offs.

 

Ultimately, we felt that the point of the BJSC was discovering new music. Yes, of course it's a bit of fun, but what is the point of entries that are already known to the vast majority of contestants by virtue of massive hype or already-present popularity? The BJSC would be rendered a pointless exercise in just ordering your favourites from tracks you already know of - and if you really want to do that, that's what Personal Charts is for. The best contests are almost universally remembered as the ones which provide people with new music which they would not have otherwise heard, and in the last few contests the triumph of already known and hyped tracks has been verging on endemic, a trend which has only served to encourage the proliferation of entries of these nature. We do realise that regulation such as this isn't going to be popular, and in an ideal world there would be no regulation whatsoever, but ultimately it was felt it was growing to be such a problem that something needed to be done.

 

Feel free to start bitching on us...NOW. Constructive criticism/suggestions will obviously be considered.

OK, something has been added to what I was told by an annonymous tipster which makes this slightly not as bad as I first feared, BUT I still don't think this is totally great.

 

The way I see it, whilst I agree with the principal of taking the contest back to it's roots, clearly this should be down to majority. What I mean by that is that, for example, whilst I'm pissed off my for once original entry was beaten by 'Alejandro', people clearly liked Alejandro more than Dust In Gravity and wanted it to be there.. Whilst I dont agree necessarily with it, it's not for me to say what people can and cant vote for and clearly alot of people wanted to vote for it, and if they don't then they adjust their votes for anti cheap measurs accordingly... whilst I appreciate taking the contest back to it's roots the contest has become a lot more casual and by imposing a ton of bans you're going to probably encourage a lot of people not to take part and make the contest small again... I'm not saying that's a BAD thing as such and I know I continually complain we havent had an original winner since XVII, and like I say I'm not against the principal, it should be majority not minority.

 

I hope that was clear ^_^

Hmmm... now you have specific lists of what is banned and stuff, I actually quite like the idea. Hmmm...

 

Poor Lorikeet :kink:

We've spent a good two weeks thrashing out the finer details of this change.

 

 

I just want to say that we are doing this for the good of the contest, bringing it a bit closer to it's roots as a means to discovering high quality music that you wouldn't otherwise have had the chance to hear.

 

I know this is going to be a highly unpopular move, but that doesn't bother me at all. I hope in the future we will be at a point where we can remove these restrictions from the contest. :( I didn't want it to come to this, and it saddens me that it has.

The first part doesn't seem too bad to be honest, not sure about the ban-lists, but I think they'll work out fine. The second part does seem a bit harsh, but I'll see how it is in practice first before moaning.

I'm mostly gutted that this means the ban of Beverley Knight from the contest. :( Neither "Black Butta" or "Soul Survivor" would be eligible entries now and (Simon/Aled aside) most people would have discovered those through BJSC. Same for "Beautiful Night", the top 100 smash most people would have missed. :(

 

It also means half of my entries would have been banned. (Bev x2, Estelle, David Guetta x2, September, possibly even Robyn and Little Boots - I forget when/where they were added to the Radio 1 playlist) Guess it shows how cheap I am, Quotosibb FTL. :(

I think people make too big a deal about the "Cheap" entries in all honesty. So it just SEEMS like there aren't many original entries or something. (Also the entries that are "cheap" at the moment DO seem to be getting more and more inspired though.) If people started focusing on the Non-Cheap entries as opposed to the cheap entries, this wouldn't have happened. As long as they don't over-hype the original entry [/i Blame Coco :P] I have no problems what-so-ever. There are ALWAYS more original and inspiring entries as opposed to "cheap and uninspiring". It's just most of the time the original entries are either over-hyped, or they genuinely are really shit.

 

I think there should be a rule about hyping other people's entries until the final or something. They should go to the country's thread to comment and stuff on the song. Yes I know I'm guilty of hyping myself, but we all do it and I Blame Coco is a good song, but I probably would have enjoyed it more had I not seen the hype. It just wasn't THAT good and it let the song down BIG time for me.

Lorikeet DISSAPROVE of these changes :P I doubt more than 3 or 4 of my entries would have been eligable now :lol: I could rant on about how much I disagree with the whole dissaproval of cheap entries and I do think these rule changes have taken it WAY too far, I do get the point, since frankly I doubt i'd still be here if it wasnt for the discovering of new music which perhaps makes my entering of Saturdays 24/7 a bit hyporcritical.

 

This still means of course I am indeed going to try and bend these rules as much as possible :P

And we will just adapt each time :kink:

Also another thing: What if for example, I wanted to enter a remix of a song on the release schedule/radio 1 playlist etc... would I be able too? (I'm not going too, but I might want too one day... Jason Nevins does amazing remixes :kink:)

I agree with these changes ^_^

 

The discovering of new music is a vital aspect of this contest, and I agree with Lorikeet in it being a tad hypocritical in sending something cheap, but then again, as Ojnoj states: "There are ALWAYS more original and inspiring entries as opposed to "cheap and uninspiring"".

 

I guess it shouldn't be too hard finding a likable song which isn't on those lists.

 

Although, I'm not at all familiar with MTV/radio playlists in any alphabetical letter - or the UK top 40 charts - so the only downside is I would have to look through all of these lists if I'm unsure.

 

That wouldn't be a problem I guess, as I'm quite original :kink: but who knows etc..

 

Anyway, I agree on it seeming a bit harsh/too much and all, but in all fairness - The discovering of new music should triumph above all :cheer:

I think people make too big a deal about the "Cheap" entries in all honesty. So it just SEEMS like there aren't many original entries or something. (Also the entries that are "cheap" at the moment DO seem to be getting more and more inspired though.) If people started focusing on the Non-Cheap entries as opposed to the cheap entries, this wouldn't have happened. As long as they don't over-hype the original entry [/i Blame Coco :P] I have no problems what-so-ever. There are ALWAYS more original and inspiring entries as opposed to "cheap and uninspiring". It's just most of the time the original entries are either over-hyped, or they genuinely are really shit.

 

I think there should be a rule about hyping other people's entries until the final or something. They should go to the country's thread to comment and stuff on the song. Yes I know I'm guilty of hyping myself, but we all do it and I Blame Coco is a good song, but I probably would have enjoyed it more had I not seen the hype. It just wasn't THAT good and it let the song down BIG time for me.

I Blame Coco - 10” release on 1st February. By the looks of the current rules it'd have been DSQ-d :kink:

 

Anyways, I'm obviously for these changes! Not that i never sent an uninspired song. Guilty for Loba and Hometown Glory (the former being my least favourite off all of my entries and the latter i have excuse for - it was literally AGES ago!). It'd be good to see how this is going to work. Especially the part when you get disqualified if your song gets under one of those new rules.

 

So far there wasn't an "OMG YOU'RE f***ING INSANE PEOPLE. I'M f***ING QUITTING" radical comment on this - i guess not many people have seen it yet :heehee: Here's hoping this won't turn into the massive withdrawal. :(

First I read this I wanted to withdraw, but now I see it in an other way :kink:

 

I think these rules are good for Tinnmark :wub:

 

but now I have to do boring research before confirming :manson: :drama:

First I read this I wanted to withdraw, but now I see it in an other way :kink:

 

In what way did you see it first? :kink:

 

 

but now I have to do boring research before confirming :manson: :drama:

 

:lol:

Edited January 18, 201015 yr by Freeze

Now i can enter The Knife or Owen Pallett easily :kink: