Hybrids are dirty, disgusting foul excuses for cars. Hybrids are pretentious, hypocritical c**t mobiles driven by people who should be sterilised and/or shot.

 

Can't stand the vile things. There is no need for the rancid things whatsoever. All savings in CO2 and MPG can easily be achieved by getting a smaller engined car. The Renault Megane and the Toyota cuntmobile are very similar in size and weight. Not only are the smallest Megane engines more fuel efficient and have fewer CO2 emissions but the Megane is also cheaper. Oh look, while everyone is busy wanking over these green mobiles the automotive industry has surpassed them without the need to tag a big battery to the engine.

 

Ooooh, and, the savings in CO2 and MPG made by hybrids depends on how the car is driven. You drive it like a normal person and those lab results are unachievable.

Full Electric vehicles i'm all for, and fuel efficient cars too. Hybrids are a dark mark in the history of the car. SUV's are necessary in some parts of the country/world i agree that they shouldn't be used in the cities by people who'll never take them off road.

Oh and the green brigade who harp on about emissions from cars can take that broken record off. Car's are not the biggest polluter, hell, Cow's produce more CO2 per annum than f***ing cars. So unless the hybrid driving pretentious jumped up green freaks are going to start suggesting we should tax cows for Farting it's high time we back the f*** off the car.

 

I agree with the EU law enforcing major manufactures to have an average co2 output of 120g/km with it coming down to 100g/km in the future. Air going into car's is dirtier than the stuff that comes out and our cars a soooooooooooooooooooo many times cleaner than they were 10years ago never mind 25years ago.

 

Green freaks disgust me.

Cows produce more per annum than cars, which is why we ought to reduce the amount of beef we breed AND reduce emissions from cars - we can control both you know! :P

Public transports smells tho

It doesn't throughout Manchester/Sheffield/Derby/Birmingham/everywhere in between, i don't get where that comes from, certainly not here :/

But when prices are put up constantly obviously the cost of public transport goes up too. No way on earth will I use public transport when no matter how much petrol goes up ... my car will always be cheaper for me to get to work (safer and more reliable too).

 

Kath

This is why i use a car. The public transport system in Scotland is atrocious outside of Glasgow and Edinburgh and it is not only far cheaper to drive a car but more convenient, more reliable, far quicker, a more efficient use of time and and a damn sight more pleasant.

 

£1.10?! Its like £1.25 here :/. Okay, maybe more like £1.15 in supermarkets and stuff but still, most things are meant to be cheaper here. Hardly isolated here but by UK standards it is, i guess they can afford to rip people off coz they have nowhere else to go...

 

Oh and if you can get to it, public transport all the way.

110.9/111.9 is the current average here, we for some reason have some of the cheapest Petrol in the country. An independent garage is selling petrol at 112.9 ^_^

 

I presume your public transport system isn't run by Stagecoach then? Vile company.

 

 

 

For the record, i very happily spent 5 months using Brisbane's public transport system which is excellent and most of it's buses don't emit CO2 :funky: The system was well run, on time, clean frequent, reliable and best of all dirt f***ing cheap.

Weren't Morrisons doing a promotion where you can spend £40 or more in store in one go, and you get a voucher that lets you get 5p off per litre at any Morrisons petrol station.

Not that it matters now, today was the last day to get the vouchers, and they'll all be closed by now :P My advice is to go and work for a car company. When my dad worked for Land Rover, he got a free Land Rover & the petrol was paid for my the company if you bought it from Esso :o :heehee:

Yes, but only in the area of the country from Yorkshire north to Newcastle :manson:

 

Cows produce more per annum than cars, which is why we ought to reduce the amount of beef we breed AND reduce emissions from cars - we can control both you know! :P

I mentioned that :lol:

 

Motor emissions have significantly reduced though, it's not fair or logical to heap all this blame on the motor vehicle. It's not the biggest polluter, hell iirc it's not even in the top 3!

 

Petrol tax is disproportionally high and the cost of motoring in this country is one of the highest in the world. We have a disgustingly poor public transport system, Labour pledged to get us out of our cars and onto public transport. If anything they drove more people to the car. Labour made public transport more expensive.

 

 

There is no reason for us to have Petrol so expensive it's TWICE the price of Australian petrol and it's cheaper for truckers in the SE to cross the channel and fill up in France.

Weren't Morrisons doing a promotion where you can spend £40 or more in store in one go, and you get a voucher that lets you get 5p off per litre at any Morrisons petrol station.

 

I honestly couldn't think of an occasion when I'd spend more than £40 in Morrisons in one go though. I'm a selective shopper and if I can't get fruit/veg from a farm shop ... if I go to a supermarket ... Morrisons is the last place I'd go ... their fruit and veg perishes really quickly. They're OK for meats but even then I'd rather go to Asda or Tesco. I know Morrisons had a reputation a few years back as being the cheapest for value ... but I actually find them quite expensive now. I've only recently discovered Sainsburys too ... excellent VFM.

 

Kath

 

It doesn't throughout Manchester/Sheffield/Derby/Birmingham/everywhere in between, i don't get where that comes from, certainly not here :/

 

To be fair - when I've been forced to use it - public transport (buses anyway) in Wigan have been very neat, clean and frequent. It's the expense! I know that the bus companies have to claw back the fuel increases that they incur too ... but ... its just too dear. For example a few months back in a temping job I had - my car was in for its MOT and for that day I had to use public transport. It cost over £5.40 for the day (with a change in the middle) ... and I was working during off-peak hours! That is absolutely ridiculous for a journey of around 9 miles maximum.

 

Kath

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I honestly couldn't think of an occasion when I'd spend more than £40 in Morrisons in one go though. I'm a selective shopper and if I can't get fruit/veg from a farm shop ... if I go to a supermarket ... Morrisons is the last place I'd go ... their fruit and veg perishes really quickly. They're OK for meats but even then I'd rather go to Asda or Tesco. I know Morrisons had a reputation a few years back as being the cheapest for value ... but I actually find them quite expensive now. I've only recently discovered Sainsburys too ... excellent VFM.

 

Kath

We pwn everyone for meat. We are the only supermarket that actually has a butchery department in store and prepares meat fresh instore. Morrisons up here have never had a rep for being cheap, they have a rep of being the best place for fresh foods.

We pwn everyone for meat. We are the only supermarket that actually has a butchery department in store and prepares meat fresh instore. Morrisons up here have never had a rep for being cheap, they have a rep of being the best place for fresh foods.

 

Yeah, dude, can we not have the big ad campaign for Morrisons here, okay, I know you're an employee, but...... :lol:

 

Anyway, petrol prices, yeah.. Now, here's the thing, what's happened to the fuel protests? I mean, seriously, petrol duty has gotten to a far more ludicrous level than it was when the protests were going on, so, one has to wonder, why no fresh campaigns, not as if it wouldn't exactly be justified would it...? You kind of have to wonder....

 

I remember the outrage at the price hitting 90p then when it sailed through the £1 barrier there wasn't even a sound :mellow: Although, i doubt a protest would do much they'd just put the duty back up again anyway

I remember the outrage at the price hitting 90p then when it sailed through the £1 barrier there wasn't even a sound :mellow: Although, i doubt a protest would do much they'd just put the duty back up again anyway

 

Which is why the blockades should be even more militant this time.... I'd definitely support it, I supported the last one tbh, purely because it was sh"t-stirring direct action and non-violent protest of the most effective kind, the country was effectively brought to a stand-still.....

 

We have to be made to realise that petrol is no longer necessary to run cars (I've heard of cars that can run on chip fat ffs...), we have an over-reliance on crude oil, and it will run out sooner rather than later what with China and India all of a sudden booming and now everyone wants a car... Have you heard about the 100km traffic jam in Beijing...???? Madness.... Our love affair with the car is really becoming ridiculous....

 

We pwn everyone for meat. We are the only supermarket that actually has a butchery department in store and prepares meat fresh instore. Morrisons up here have never had a rep for being cheap, they have a rep of being the best place for fresh foods.

 

 

Fine but isn't it time you introduced a loyalty card with points dude? Until you do I'll shop at Tesco and get over £100 a year in vouchers thanks.

Which is why the blockades should be even more militant this time.... I'd definitely support it, I supported the last one tbh, purely because it was sh"t-stirring direct action and non-violent protest of the most effective kind, the country was effectively brought to a stand-still.....

 

We have to be made to realise that petrol is no longer necessary to run cars (I've heard of cars that can run on chip fat ffs...), we have an over-reliance on crude oil, and it will run out sooner rather than later what with China and India all of a sudden booming and now everyone wants a car... Have you heard about the 100km traffic jam in Beijing...???? Madness.... Our love affair with the car is really becoming ridiculous....

I supported the last one too.

 

Diesel cars can run on chip fat, but something has to be done to the oil first and a slight modification to the car as well iirc. It works best with older diesels. In Brazil Renault sell a special engine that they call 'Hi-Flex' that can run on a mix of Petrol and Ethanol. There can be as much as 100% petrol or as little as 0% petrol in the mix.

 

China and India are the biggest growth markets for the automotive industry. Car sales there are still increasing year on year at an insane rate.

On the subject of petrol prices:

Click on cost p/ litre.

On the subject of petrol prices:

Click on cost p/ litre.

In other words, the idea that petrol is more expensive here than in the rest of Europe is another tabloid lie.

In other words, the idea that petrol is more expensive here than in the rest of Europe is another tabloid lie.

Exactly. 11 other countries in Europe with higher petrol costs!

 

$0.02 - Venezuela!

 

Imagine buying our petrol for 1p, rather than £1.10. Still, we have some of the cheapest petrol prices in Western Europe...

I was in Gibraltar recently and the petrol there is about £0.89!

 

Aren't the coalition supposed to be introducing some sort of flexible petrol tax though? Like when the price of crude oil goes up, petrol tax goes down, and vice versa? It won't really make any petrol cheaper, but it should at least stop these fluctuations.