April 26, 201114 yr I think Pixie Lott could go either way with her 2nd album... She could get a MASSIVE club stomper (along the lines of Doing Fine or Rolling Stone) and go to #1, have decent enough album sales and all. But then again, Gabriella Cilmi had an amzing first single and STILL the album flopped. ....Or, she could release a mid-tempo/ballad (she's released 4 of them on 1 album!) and it could ALL go wrong, and she could get dropped...
April 26, 201114 yr They're the only two mainstream acts I can think of that haven't flopped/underperformed with their new albums. Paolo Nutini?
April 26, 201114 yr You're right about the timing being different depending on the artist. In general, older music fans are likely to be more patient in waiting for the next album. That leads on to another issue. An artist aiming at a younger market needs a different strategy from an artist with an older fanbase. For many people, the music they listen to at 17 is very different from what they listened to when they were 12. There is less difference in taste between the ages of 22 and 27. So, an artist whose first album sold a lot of copies to 12-year-olds either needs to develop in line with their fans' changing tastes or start again and appeal to a new lot of 12-year-olds. Getting that right isn't easy. I think you've hit the nail on the head about timing. I also think that it all depends on what time of year you release the follow-up album - Ive realised artists who are established (Beyonce, Robbie Williams, Take That, Sugababes (Not the recent line-up lol) release around the autumn/winter time to maximise on sales. What lesser known artists should do is release their album in the early spring/summer time as they can get more of the year to get established. A good example of this is Paolo Nutini - He didnt release his follow up at the end of the year but in the summer - and now has Two 1 million selling albums. The fact that the middle of the year is a quiet time for albums - They should make maximimum use of it. Edited April 26, 201114 yr by soundseekerz
April 26, 201114 yr Pink has an extremely consistent career. Not one album selling less than 400k here and 3 million sellers. shame she's so often overlooked.
April 26, 201114 yr Paolo Nutini is a very good example of avoiding this curse, he pretty much totally changed his sound and it had equal appeal to his first album and was just as successful. I think SSU has actually outsold TS! The singles from SSU were a bit less successful than the singles from TS but still, 2 long running top 20 hits is good for an artist like him and 10/10 didn't do too badly either given it only peaked at #51. The less said about Coming Up Easy the better though :P
April 26, 201114 yr Paolo is the first artist since Amy Winehouse to spend 100 weeks in Top 75 with both of first two albums.
April 26, 201114 yr Paolo is the first artist since Amy Winehouse to spend 100 weeks in Top 75 with both of first two albums. Not yet - SSU is 'only' on 99 weeks.
April 26, 201114 yr You are so wrong here! Even though I hate to admit it almost everyone did. Derulo's + Scherzingers were rip off's but I am talking about copying in general. Haven't you noticed the video clip's? (even Rihanna and Beyonce). Even some appearences here and there with the crayziest outfits surged from Gaga's style. Obviously I am not talking about KOL or HIM I am talking about popstars! It is not random that Gaga was found to be the most influential person of 2010! Gaga has copied a lot of things from the past, but in a modern and updated way. Copying somebody who is huge now is completely different. This will hopefully end up now, I don't think a lot will follow now she has gone too deep into religion (and not only :lol: ). Oh, I was talking about the actual music, not their clothes. Well, at least Jason Derulo, Nicole Scherzinger, Beyonce and Rihanna will be remembered for their music, not for what eye-makeup they wore on a TV interview. :lol: But even In My Head and Poison, they could've simply been "ripping-off" the same songs that Gaga did.
April 26, 201114 yr I would add Will as another whose second Album Friday's Child was huge and easily outsold his first, also by February he would of been successful in the music biz for ten years, that's good going by today's standards. I think Lead singles do play a major role in how an album will do and style change can affect sales too, but an album also has to follow through with some overall quality to it, the lead single and even the second can't be the only good songs on an album and if they are for the first then people might not invest in the second as a result, also i think that part of having a long lasting career in music besides having talent and having some good songs, in my opinion it is imperative to have a real connection with the public, i think it's this that allows success to ebb and flow with varying degrees without damaging someone as an artist. Kylie i think is prime example as someone who has genuine public affection and because she has that she has the privilege of being able to weather a fall in sales with no damage to her overall popularity and career as a whole, Some acts arrive on the scene and enjoy success with their first albums because one or more of their songs has resonated with the public for whatever reasons and sales because of that can be huge, but it doesn't always follow that it's the artist which is the main attraction.
April 26, 201114 yr I would add Will as another whose second Album Friday's Child was huge and easily outsold his first, also by February he would of been successful in the music biz for ten years, that's good going by today's standards. No offence, Will is a nice guy, but he hasn't released any new material for 3 years, and is less revelant in the music chart than he used to be, so he might flop with his next album.
April 26, 201114 yr No offence, Will is a nice guy, but he hasn't released any new material for 3 years, and is less revelant in the music chart than he used to be, so he might flop with his next album. No Offence taken..we were talking about second albums though and Will's wiped the floor with his first ^_^ and just because he isn't always in the press or on TV while he's not promoting doesn't make him less relevant in the music industry, Yes Let It Go was three years ago, but he also did three tours in those three years, played Glasto, V and IOW festivals to name a few and released The Hits too which sold well and last year's summer tour was a success and that was without new music. His new album is due this summer and is a new sound for him but I'm not worried about it this time around, earlier in his career i was though so i know how it feels to sweat a second and third album.
April 26, 201114 yr No offence, Will is a nice guy, but he hasn't released any new material for 3 years, and is less revelant in the music chart than he used to be, so he might flop with his next album. He actually did release new material in 2009. Hopes & Fears. Got to #65. :P
April 27, 201114 yr The fact that the middle of the year is a quiet time for albums - They should make maximimum use of it. Erm..Kylie did that with Aphrodite, and that has only just gone Platinum
April 27, 201114 yr Erm..Kylie did that with Aphrodite, and that has only just gone Platinum Thing with Aphrodite was that Parlo totally mucked up the singles and promo after the album was released. If handled better I am sure the album would have sold more. :(
May 2, 201114 yr The material for the first album will often have been written over a period of years with many other songs being rejected. The album may be made up of the best 12 songs from 30 or more. They will then be expected to come up with sufficient material for a second album within a relatively short time, especially if they are also spending time touring to promote the first album. Record companies are often too impatient to get the second album released which can lead to sub-standard material. The 12 songs may be chosen from only around 15 or so. I will agree with the part about songs quality which is obviously a reason for an album to flop, but i think that years to create new material doesn't always lead to a good thing. Both Duffy and Mika had 2 and a half years but still both flopped with second albums. I think it has more to do that when an artist is not established in general public's eye (yes both sold millions but audience was all about the album and not the act), they need to bring a material, not necessary better, but something that will somehow make their name "first page" again. Plus, promo, right timing/not big competitors etc. play a huge part.
May 2, 201114 yr Duffy is a good example of second era flop. "Endlessly" virtually vanished without trace - quite astonsihing when you consider the massive success of "Rockferry." I blame the almost non-existent marketing, but most of all the choice of " Well Well Well" as the lead single - probably the weakest track on the album and not at all representative of the album's quality. I actually prefer "Endlessly" to its more successful predecessor - it's really very good indeed. Edited May 2, 201114 yr by mickeypops
June 16, 201114 yr The Wanted's 2nd album will NOT flop. Mark my words! Tinie Tempah will do good if he comes back with a big single! Pixie will only do good if she has a real dancey #1 single. Otherwise, this will be her Wordshaker. No doubt, Adele's next album will be massive! ...And Katy Perry's will be big, but not as big as TD :/ Other artists who will flop with their second album: Alexis Jordan, Olly Murs, Eliza Doolittle, Diana Vickers, B.O.B., Aggro Santos, Nadine Coyle (if there is one!) and Paloma Faith.
June 16, 201114 yr The Wanted's 2nd album will NOT flop. Mark my words! Tinie Tempah will do good if he comes back with a big single! Pixie will only do good if she has a real dancey #1 single. Otherwise, this will be her Wordshaker. No doubt, Adele's next album will be massive! ...And Katy Perry's will be big, but not as big as TD :/ Other artists who will flop with their second album: Alexis Jordan, Olly Murs, Eliza Doolittle, Diana Vickers, B.O.B., Aggro Santos, Nadine Coyle (if there is one!) and Paloma Faith. His comeback features Wiz Khalifa and is released in August. It's his second US single and first single of the 'deluxe' edition of Disc-overy. I think it'll go number one in the UK and top ten in the US Edited June 16, 201114 yr by danielMFAO
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