July 1, 201113 yr Arctic Monkeys The Wombats My Chemical Romance ^ All of these have actually done moderately well this era so far. Arctics seem to have done pretty well with 'Don't Sit Down' already, in terms of popularity and creating buzz for the album - although the next single is the real indicator; will R1 playlist it? As for the Wombats, I reckon their fanbase has grown a lot - they've now got a #2 album (compared to #11 debut) and have already spawned 4 radio-friendly singles. My Chemical Romance is again, another band that I reckon have become played significantly more on the radio - R1 have playlisted all 4 of the releases from the album. However, from what I read in late 2010 - they intend 'Danger Days' to be their last studio album - I recall getting the album and feeling pleased that they ended on a high. Flop Predictions - Parade [as of single #3] - SoundGirl [as of single #2] - Kaiser Chiefs [singles in particular] - The Feeling [singles in particular] - Mel C [singles + album] - Shania Twain [singles + album]
July 1, 201113 yr I think Britney is flopping compared to the hype and fame she has. She is still promoted and treated like an A-List artist. But when you look at the figures she hasn't had a massive smash since Womanizer (3 years ago) and her singles are now limping into the back end of the Top10 before dropping again. The general trend is still for Dance/R&B/Autotuned music, so guitar bands are finding it hard to get a look in. I don't see this changing in 2011, but next year the tide will most likely turn back to 'Rock/Guitar/Live' music as these trends only ever last for a few years at a time.
July 1, 201113 yr I don't see why everyone thinks Matt Cardle will flop? WWC was among the highest selling winner's singles (and will probably become the third to top a million eventually), plus he came top on the voting in all but one week - he can't lose that much popularity that quickly. Also he's signed to Columbia as well as Syco so hopefully his marketing shouldn't be as screwed up as, say, Joe McElderry's. I can't see him doing any worse than Olly Murs-type success.
July 1, 201113 yr The thing is that Britney is an established superstar who is interesting despite not having huge sales. She's been around for long enough to be considered as a household name and people pay attention to what she does even though they might not buy it all. Edited July 1, 201113 yr by SKOB
July 1, 201113 yr I think Britney is flopping compared to the hype and fame she has. She is still promoted and treated like an A-List artist. But when you look at the figures she hasn't had a massive smash since Womanizer (3 years ago) and her singles are now limping into the back end of the Top10 before dropping again. The general trend is still for Dance/R&B/Autotuned music, so guitar bands are finding it hard to get a look in. I don't see this changing in 2011, but next year the tide will most likely turn back to 'Rock/Guitar/Live' music as these trends only ever last for a few years at a time. I'm sure rock music will make a comeback, but I'm hoping it's actually good - these days guitar music is awful. Even bands like Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Kasier Chiefs, Arctic Monkeys who used to make good music are now making below average dated sounds. All my favourite rock songs (and yes I don't hate rock) are from years back - as rock music has now died (R.I.P.) Nickelback and Kings of Leon are responsible for its death thanks to their overrated/overplayed songs (I do like SOF and US but there were soooo overplayed at the time)
July 1, 201113 yr I don't see why everyone thinks Matt Cardle will flop? WWC was among the highest selling winner's singles (and will probably become the third to top a million eventually), plus he came top on the voting in all but one week - he can't lose that much popularity that quickly. Also he's signed to Columbia as well as Syco so hopefully his marketing shouldn't be as screwed up as, say, Joe McElderry's. I can't see him doing any worse than Olly Murs-type success. Did you notice all of Matt Cardle's songs were ballads (or songs like Firework that he turned into ballads) so if he tries an uptempo he'll fail Joe McFloppery style but if he comes back with another ballad it'll do well but he'll be forgotten about soon enough. Matt will do better than Joe, just about anyone who sells a million with their debut can - but he won't be sticking around for long and Cher Lloyd (hopefully not but it looks like it's gon' happen with Swagger Jagger being promoted lots and being held back) will have more sucess (singles anyway, I can't imagine her shifting more albums than Matt)
July 1, 201113 yr Author Album Sales wise, Nicole Scherzinger has underachieved? less than 100,000 and appeared on Xfactor,Bgt & Dancing on Ice. Edited July 1, 201113 yr by lee wallace
July 1, 201113 yr Re; Cher Lloyd she won't flop because this is her debut into the world of music. Her first single will probably get the same treatment Diana Vickers 'Once' received last year. However, once 'Swagger Jagger' has been and gone, where will Cher Lloyd go from there? Will she sustain a healthy career with a couple more chart toppers and big selling debut album? Or will she quickly fade back into obscurity when X Factor 2011 starts and everyone is transfixed with the "next big thing" and quickly forget the previous "next big thing"?
July 1, 201113 yr But her singles success makes up for the "under performing" album sales. She was always going to be more of a singles seller anyway. Her album will only appeal to the die hards. And the chart run, is actually rather impressive. If she had that chart run back in a different time, I'm pretty sure it'd probably have around 200k sales. It's just unfortunate that the albums market is in such a state right now.
July 1, 201113 yr Album Sales wise, Nicole Scherzinger has underachieved? less than 100,000 and appeared on Xfactor,Bgt & Dancing on Ice. Nicole was never gonna be a big albums artist, but her singles have all done very well - that promo really helped her
July 1, 201113 yr I have a horrible feeling Cher will sell more than Matt and if that happens this country will have lost any credibility some still pretend we have.
July 1, 201113 yr Flop Predictions: Matt Cardle Rebecca Ferguson Flopped already: Katie Waissel Katie was always going to flop, she never had a strong fanbase on the show and has been trying to build a career in music for years.It did not help that Cowell was clearly trying to keep her in because of controversy instead of a good singing voice. It is hard to tell what will happen to Matt, I like him but the X-factor boys seem to be cursed. Rebecca I think will surprise everyone she is signed to Epic and is sure to get good songs.I think there is a gap in the market for more Adele type singers so I think she will do well.
July 1, 201113 yr Did you notice all of Matt Cardle's songs were ballads (or songs like Firework that he turned into ballads) so if he tries an uptempo he'll fail Joe McFloppery style but if he comes back with another ballad it'll do well but he'll be forgotten about soon enough. Matt will do better than Joe, just about anyone who sells a million with their debut can - but he won't be sticking around for long and Cher Lloyd (hopefully not but it looks like it's gon' happen with Swagger Jagger being promoted lots and being held back) will have more sucess (singles anyway, I can't imagine her shifting more albums than Matt) Matt Cardle is not a pop artist. Joe McElderry wasn't either, which was why Syco's attempts to market him as one were stupid and why he failed. Matt will (unless Syco are truly f***tarded and Columbia do nothing to stop it) come back with either a ballad or a singer/songwritery guitar song, in a similar vein to Ed Sheeran's The A Team. Hopefully Syco/Columbia have allowed him some creative freedom, he was in a band before and he said he wanted to write his own songs on his début. He seems far more talented than the other XF winners (not necessarily vocally, but overall as an artist) and it would be a big shame to see it all go to waste. Edited July 1, 201113 yr by Bré
July 1, 201113 yr I can easily see Rebecca and Cher outselling Matt tbh - the male winners never do well. If he sticks to ballads/credible rock/alternative music, he could do a Shayne Ward for an era, but it'll be downhill from there. Both Rebecca and Cher will do well, though I can see the former as more of an album seller (but with some single success) and the latter of more of a single seller (with some album success). Edited July 1, 201113 yr by Liаm
July 1, 201113 yr The male winners 'never do well'? Shayne Ward would have a word with that. And JLS/Olly Murs (they didn't win but they may as well have won). I wouldn't rule out Cher doing better than Matt but I honestly can't see Rebecca doing anything. One Direction also have the potential to be big... if they release something soon. Looks like they're leaving their material until XF season which I don't think is a wise move, they should be following the JLS strategy. Edited July 1, 201113 yr by Bré
July 1, 201113 yr The male winners 'never do well'? Shayne Ward would have a word with that. And JLS/Olly Murs (they didn't win but they may as well have won). I wouldn't rule out Cher doing better than Matt but I honestly can't see Rebecca doing anything. One Direction also have the potential to be big... if they release something soon. Looks like they're leaving their material until XF season which I don't think is a wise move, they should be following the JLS strategy. Shayne was only really big for one album though. The second one sold OK I guess and the third was a DISASTER. And JLS/Olly show that the runners-up can still be big, making hope for Cher/Rebecca/One Direction. I can't see OD being as big as JLS, but I do agree with you they should follow the JLS strategy and not hold back till XF season.
July 1, 201113 yr Shayne was only really big for one album though. The second one sold OK I guess and the third was a DISASTER. And JLS/Olly show that the runners-up can still be big, making hope for Cher/Rebecca/One Direction. I can't see OD being as big as JLS, but I do agree with you they should follow the JLS strategy and not hold back till XF season. Shayne flopped with album 3 because of his p*** poor marketing. Matt isn't wholly signed to Syco so it's probably fair to assume he'll be marketed decently. That's all it really comes down to TBH, the marketing.
July 1, 201113 yr Matt is also an experienced musician, he knows which route he wants to go down and what he's doing, Syco not having full control is a very good sign as well, Joe was a kid, he had no experience before and just did what he was told and sung what he was given, his directions as an artist were never clear to him, Syco clearly didn't know what to do with him either so threw him under the bus, and he couldn't do anything about it, similar story with Leon Matt hopefully won't let that happen, he's older and has more experience and he's *better* than the other male winners, and won't be just a puppet who sings what he's given to sing (this is why is really grates me when people say 'the male winners are all flops' in Steve and Leon's case, they weren't any good anyway and with Joe's case, there was just no interest and he kinda won by default really(the stats show Olly was never *that* popular) and Shayne *was* initially successful, he just flopped because of the disastrous marketing) I hope he does well, it would be such a shame to see all that talent go to waste - imo, he was clearly the best singer of the show and deserved to win as for the other contestants, I can't see Rebecca doing well singles-wise, I just can't see her as that sort of act (I can see her selling albums though), OD could have initial success, but become a bit of a 'fanbase' act and wear off after the initial hype, I can see Cher doing well with Swagger Jagger, what happens after that I'm not sure Edited July 1, 201113 yr by Chart Wizard
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