Has anyone mentioned The Cure yet? (Although they're more 80s)

I agree - one for 'BJ's favourite artists' and one for 'Most Influential Artists'.

 

Something tells me that the likes of Cheryl, Sugababes, Take That, Robbie, New Kids on the Block, The Saturdays, etc, etc would still end up being in both lists! :lol:

 

Kath

 

But it was 'Best & Most influential' . And I believe most 'influential' can be close to 'successful' sometimes.

 

It could be 2 lists I guess. Still I feel a little weird reading the 'set' of 'artists' you put in the same box. I think you should cross out Robbie. It could be down to taste anyway, some people may feel he is all around same leage and quality with Cheryl and the Sats. :lol: :lol: :lol: (perhaps they should be given a handful of Brits , Records and non-British no1's too. ;) )

 

Perhaps I got it wrong. I thought it was not only about who has been the most innovative musicaly. Influence also means power, fame, star quality, sales, people singing your songs even copyng your hearcut imo.

Edited July 27, 201113 yr by 7heDreamer

It could be 2 lists I guess. Still I feel a little weird reading the 'set' of 'artists' you put in the same box. I think you should cross out Robbie. It could be down to taste anyway, some people may feel he is all around same leage and quality with Cheryl and the Sats. :lol: :lol: :lol: (perhaps they should be given a handful of Brits , Records and non-British no1's too. ;) )

 

But Robbie hasn't had any major influence on music. He hasn't contributed anything new to music for others to follow. All he's offered is himself - a great entertainer to a lot of people but that's it! You may as well say that Cliff Richard was influential (in his day he was easily as popular as Robbie - perhaps even more - but no-one would say he was influential as he was just the UK's answer to Elvis Presley.) I suppose as much as Take That were the UK's answer (at the time although they've certainly progressed since then) to New Kids on the Block.

 

I understand you're a huge Rob fan and he is undoubtedly more popular world-wide than Take That and a lot of other UK artists - but no way is he original, a musical influence or even an inspiration.

 

If I had to name just ONE act from the last 20 years who I'd regard as genuinely influential in any way - and I never thought I'd say this five years ago but I've listened to all their music since - its The Arctic Monkeys. Even then - its not so much influence as uniqueness.

 

Kath

Edited July 27, 201113 yr by Kathyp

I understand you're a huge Rob fan and he is undoubtedly more popular world-wide than Take That and a lot of other UK artists - but no way is he original, a musical influence or even an inspiration.

 

That was not the point, not even me being a fan...

 

We understand influence in a different way. You mean musically influencing new generations of artists with your personal style, lyrics or music. If that's the question the answer is not Robbie. Now you also mixed up ORIGINALITY. Being influential has nothing to do with being original*. I could be original but I guess I would not influence a lot of people ;) . Robbie as an artist has not been influential the way you put it. But he is a case on his own isn't he? His way of thinking, of talking (even of entertaining to some extend) is original and so are his lyrics.

 

 

And perhaps you missunderstood that I was trying to compare him with TT (it was not random that I did not mention them at my post). It s just that your Cheryl and Sats comparison...(understand what you should I won't say more on that thing: I study Physics and I am no Einstein still I am no SuBo ;) ) Even compared with TT he should be higher in terms of originality and influence in the UK. Outside the UK it would be unfair to compare them really. It would be like saying Rob has been 'better and more influential' in the US than Eminem .

 

* for example Gaga has partly copied a lot of these artists indeed but Gaga was the most influential person of 2010 instead David Bowie, Madonna, Manson, Queen. It was through her mouth, clothes and songs and you shouldn't try to send her impact all the way back to the roots of her personal artistic influence.

Bjork

Madonna

Massive Attack

Amy Winehouse

Radiohead

 

and...I have to roll my eyes at someone calling Eminem 'the best rapper of all time' - I can only presume this person isn't too well acquainted with rap music to make a ridiculous statement like this.

 

Not for their music now, but for the legacy before, we of course have to mention

 

Kate Bush

The Beatles

Debbie Harry / Blondie

ABBA

Morrissey / The Smiths

Pet Shop Boys

Roxy Music

Depeche Mode

Pink Floyd

Nick Drake

and...I have to roll my eyes at someone calling Eminem 'the best rapper of all time' - I can only presume this person isn't too well acquainted with rap music to make a ridiculous statement like this.

 

I am not too well aqainted that's for sure <_<

And that was stupid indeed... I meant biggest. ;)

You mean fot the UK or worldwide? (the ones I choose are in bold, and the percentages are how much I think they deserve to win)

 

I'd cross out MJ. He hasn't really peaked during the 'core' of this period.

 

Mariah Carey (90%). Huge tallent and probably the most influential singer for females. Everyone coppied her style.

Everyone? Can you explain to me how PJ Harvey has been influenced by Mariah Carey? Is Adele a Mariah wannabe?

Everyone? Can you explain to me how PJ Harvey has been influenced by Mariah Carey? Is Adele a Mariah wannabe?

 

COME ON! :rolleyes:

 

I didn't revise my post with SUCH precision. I understand the comment about Eminem but this it too much. I was sure you would get what everyone was supposed to mean. Mariah (the way she was singing) influenced female singers doing the same genre of music. And mariah has influenced a lot of people not involved in music business. Adelle doesn't look like a Mariah wannabe to me but I wouldn't be shocked if she listed Mariah among people who have influenced her either.

 

Was this all about 'EVERYONE' or are you trying to say that she shouldn't be mentioned among 'the best and most influential'? :unsure:

 

Michael Jackson easily remains a huge influence on RnB and pop acts because there would be no Chris Brown, Usher, Trey Songz, Beyonce who all have mentioned him as being there greatest pop role model and the one who has influenced them the most.

Yes, but the topic specifically states 'most influential artists of the last 20 years'. Whilst Dangerous, HIStory & Invincible (bleugh) where globally sucessfull, they where never career defining albums. Maybe with the exception of the production on Dangerous, I'd say that his three major albums, Thriller, Bad & Off The Wall are far more influential amongst artists such as those you have mentioned, than his 90's and early 00's output.

COME ON! :rolleyes:

 

I didn't revise my post with SUCH precision. I understand the comment about Eminem but this it too much. I was sure you would get what everyone was supposed to mean. Mariah (the way she was singing) influenced female singers doing the same genre of music. And mariah has influenced a lot of people not involved in music business. Adelle doesn't look like a Mariah wannabe to me but I wouldn't be shocked if she listed Mariah among people who have influenced her either.

 

Was this all about 'EVERYONE' or are you trying to say that she shouldn't be mentioned among 'the best and most influential'? :unsure:

Erm, that seems to prove my point. P J Harvey and Adele perform songs they have written or co-written. Mariah Carey screeches her way through songs written by other writers.

Perhaps we should be naming who these artists have influenced. As hugely successful as Beyonce and Rihanna might've been, I can't name an artist that show that they've been influenced by them.

I neither agree nor understand the use of Mariah or Britney in this thread?

 

Mariah clearly followed and modelled herself on the Whitney of the 80s vocally (though admittedly Whitney followed Mariah down the R N B route circa late 90s)

 

As Britney you clearly see how she has modelled herself (certainly post 2001) on Madonna, let's not forget who was who's b***h at the MTV awards in 2003! :D Her sound wasn't new either- Cheiron studios who made her "sound" back in 99 had worked on tons of acts successfully way before Britney- Dr Alban, Ace of Base, backstreet boys etc. As for the claim she started the bubblegum pop movement of the late 90s- that bandwagon was rolling long before she came along, B*witched, Billie, Aqua, Cleopatra, were all the top 10 in the years before Britney- c'mon people really.......

Could someone define 'Best and Most influential' so that we at least speak the same language? What are we looking for?

 

Singers who have (with their songs or image) influenced the most singers (of the next generations) with the work they did in these 20 years?

 

Reading the headline I thought it was about something else (global incluence- not only singers, also non-musical influence, trends or whatever, and there is also best...)

 

EDIT: also do we care of he/she did most of the work or it was an image created by the managers, team etc?

Edited July 28, 201113 yr by 7heDreamer

Right, I'll get rid of the word best for a start....I'll also say that by influential I dont just mean how they have influenced other artists and how many, but also the influence they've had on the fans and people in general

 

It could easily have been 'biggest star of the last 20 years'

 

But anyway, got till midnight to put ya nominations down folks

Some of you might not like this, but Busted appear to have influcenced a number of more recent groups; McFly, Hooisers, Scouting For Girls, Wanted etc.

Some of you might not like this, but Busted appear to have influcenced a number of more recent groups; McFly, Hooisers, Scouting For Girls, Wanted etc.

 

Surely the OP was referring to *positive* influences on music, though? :P

Beck

Depeche Mode - can be heard in NIN, The Prodigy, Garbage, Linkin Park.

EDIT: also do we care of he/she did most of the work or it was an image created by the managers, team etc?

 

No we don't. That doesn't matter in this case since the output is the same.

Although I love Linkin Park and love that they've been mentioned, they weren't hugely influential IMO as they effectively crystallised the entire "nu-metal" movement and it was all but dead only a couple of years after they first emerged. They may have been better and more successful than, for instance, Limp Bizkit but more influential? Not really.

 

Also, you can't mention Green Day without mentioning The Offspring. Both were equally influential in bringing pop-punk into the mainstream, for every GD-influenced band like Blink 182 you have Offspring devotees like Sum 41.

 

Oasis and The Strokes were the two major influences for British guitar bands in the last 20 years, although I'd say Blur come close.

 

Radiohead and U2 (the latter qualify since their material in the last 20 years has been excellent, albeit patchy) as well simply for being the dual influences for Coldplay, and consequently a raft of similar bands.