Someone has had the bight idea of starting a petition in favour of privatising a state funeral for Thatcher when she dies. After all, she surely wouldn't want a state subsidised send off, would she?

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/20...-tribute-legacy

 

The petition is here

 

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/18914

 

I m indebted to thisispop, late of this parish, for highlighting this story on Haven.

I also see that Chumbawumba have a Margaret Thatcher E.P on preorder on their website, the copies of which will be posted out the moment that she dies.

 

Given that I was no more than a few months old when she was kicked out of number 10, I probably don't share the same first hand animosity toward the woman that many of those who lived through it would. My parents unanimously hate her - my father for her policies of privitisation, my mother for letting the hunger strikers die. I won't cheer her eventual death, although neither will I offer a eulogy to her.

There should probably be a campaign to get people to download Elvis Costello's Tramp The Dirt Down as soon as she croaks it.

There should probably be a campaign to get people to download Elvis Costello's Tramp The Dirt Down as soon as she croaks it.

 

I'm still holding out hope for "Margaret on the Guillotine" personally.

This absolutely sums up my life in reference to Thatcher. And I will drink myself silly in celebration the moment the bitch dies

 

This absolutely sums up my life in reference to Thatcher. And I will drink myself silly in celebration the moment the bitch dies

 

I was literally posting that one just before I saw you had done it! :lol: Have a glass a milk as well while you're at it :P

 

Trouble is when it does happen 'the sons of Thatcher' and their quest to continue her dirty work and be much worse will be in full swing :(

I often say (the subject of Thatcher dying comes up really quite regularly for some reason) that I shan't be celebrating when Thatcher dies as it's pretty futile: you may as well celebrate Hitler's car being scrapped. The vehicle is gone, but the subject they carried still remains. Celebrating Thatcher's death will be a sheer act of impotent futility so long as her ideas pervade.

I'm not usually a Guardian fan in the slightest, but that article made me laugh quite a few times.

 

 

I wouldn't celebrate the woman's death, as Tyron said, there is little point.

there is little point.

 

An excuse to get drunk? :unsure:

 

I don't really have any strong feelings towards Thatcher (before my time), but I have watched a few videos on youtube of her. Didn't seem at all pleasant.

Edited December 23, 201113 yr by Sabrewulf

What were Margaret Thatcher's policies? :unsure: I'm too young to know what they were...

I often say (the subject of Thatcher dying comes up really quite regularly for some reason) that I shan't be celebrating when Thatcher dies as it's pretty futile: you may as well celebrate Hitler's car being scrapped. The vehicle is gone, but the subject they carried still remains. Celebrating Thatcher's death will be a sheer act of impotent futility so long as her ideas pervade.

Whilst I agree that it will change nothing and more likely see her elevated to some new level of respect in the way that dying is nearly always good for yor career there remains one simple overriding fact for me. Dying will be the one good things she's done in her time and having one less evil cow on the planet is worth cheering. Even she can't escape the Reaper

 

And for Griffmas - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcherism

My parents have already said openly that when Thatcher dies they'll be hosting their own 'Thatcher's dead!' party where they'll play The Jam, The Clash, Billy Bragg et al.

Like ALL politicians she had her good points as well as bad, I love the way she is STILL loathed by the left wing OVER 20 years after sehe left power, but the greatest compliment that could be given WAS, the apeing of Thatcherism when Labour got into power, her greatest acheivement was the changing of the Labour party

Regardless of policies, the idea that some people will celebrate her death is completely abhorrent to me.

Like ALL politicians she had her good points as well as bad, I love the way she is STILL loathed by the left wing OVER 20 years after sehe left power, but the greatest compliment that could be given WAS, the apeing of Thatcherism when Labour got into power, her greatest acheivement was the changing of the Labour party

 

Policy-wise maybe because she shaped the political landscape in her own image. Surely it's equally important to her and Blair's legacy that the three major party leaders now are three young-ish men who are "good on telly". Anyone with ambition will, for the foreseeable future, strive to look and sound as unlike her as possible. THAT'S her legacy.

Policy-wise maybe because she shaped the political landscape in her own image. Surely it's equally important to her and Blair's legacy that the three major party leaders now are three young-ish men who are "good on telly". Anyone with ambition will, for the foreseeable future, strive to look and sound as unlike her as possible. THAT'S her legacy.

Oh I never really pay attention to what politicians say or how they look (Ann Widdecombe aside :blink: ) that's too easy to fake, but to what THEY DO once they get into 10 Downing Street. Poll Tax aside, not one of her policies have been REVERSED by subsequent governments in 21 years! For all the rage and the outrage the Labour party esposed in the 80s when they got through the doors what did they do?

 

For a labour party to undertake further privitisation (post office for example) Pre-Thatcher would be UNTHINKABLE.

 

THAT'S the legacy :D

Oh I never really pay attention to what politicians say or how they look (Ann Widdecombe aside :blink: ) that's too easy to fake, but to what THEY DO once they get into 10 Downing Street. Poll Tax aside, not one of her policies have been REVERSED by subsequent governments in 21 years! For all the rage and the outrage the Labour party esposed in the 80s when they got through the doors what did they do?

 

For a labour party to undertake further privitisation (post office for example) Pre-Thatcher would be UNTHINKABLE.

 

THAT'S the legacy :D

 

But the point still stands that she is electoral poison, whether the politicians keep her policies or not they are trying to avoid being associated with her at all costs. Her image is worse than anyone I can remember, hence why there'll be so many people dancing on her grave.

Being supportive of Thatcher in Scotland is effectively committing suicide. She SLAUGHTERED the wider Central Belt of Scotland, which happens to be home to like 75% of the population. Including all the major cities and industrial areas with the exception of Inverness and Aberdeen/Oil & Gas Industry. The latter of which had it's revenues diverted from the country it's contained in to the South East.

 

The woman is hated here, HATED.

Being supportive of Thatcher in Scotland is effectively committing suicide. She SLAUGHTERED the wider Central Belt of Scotland, which happens to be home to like 75% of the population. Including all the major cities and industrial areas with the exception of Inverness and Aberdeen/Oil & Gas Industry. The latter of which had it's revenues diverted from the country it's contained in to the South East.

 

The woman is hated here, HATED.

As someone who was born there and has Scottish relatives (all of them on both sides) I understand that fully. There's a programme on you tube called "Thatcherism and Scotland" that delves into the problem of exactly why that's so and whether or not she really was to blame- it's very interesting if you're into that kind of thing. :)

But the point still stands that she is electoral poison, whether the politicians keep her policies or not they are trying to avoid being associated with her at all costs. Her image is worse than anyone I can remember, hence why there'll be so many people dancing on her grave.

I can't argue with that but when a politician does things that are necessary but not popular then they rarely get thanks, that's why politicians these days tend to talk the talk but not walk the walk, because sorting out problems and getting the job done sometimes involve measures that aren't popular. That's why it's a true measure of the effectiveness to see how much of what they do is reversed later on down the line.