June 6, 201213 yr Rules that have no flexibility at all aren't brilliant rules for the dynamic world of the internet. We allowed this to stay as the cover is significantly different to the original to the point that nobody actually noticed. It's even in a completely different language! We decided that the consequences of allowing this song through were far outweighed by the disruption caused by forcing Oricon to change track.
June 6, 201213 yr As for the Eurovision rule, the contest at it's roots is far too connected to ESC. Yes, I know that there is going to be a lot of things that most people won't have heard from West Germany in 1967 an the likes but our justification for keeping it is the cross over between this forum and ESC is just too large. The spirit of the contest is introducing people to new, unknown, inspired music and ESC really doesn't tick all the boxes. It's not something that we currently have any plans to really look at but I'm open to hearing an argument for removing it. I think the connection could only be described 'too large' if in some way it was damaging it, and I don't necessarily see how having a birth connection with the ESC damages the contest unless tomorrow everyone started sending old Eurovision entries and national final entries, which just isn't going to happen. The contest pretty much stands on its own in the eyes of pretty much everyone on the forum by now I imagine, and I don't see how it'd damage the contest to remove the ban on all Eurovision entries if people started making the odd lovely discovery out of it. I'd say that you're nearly right but I'd modify it - the spirit of the contest is introducing people to unknown, inspired music. It may or may not be new - let's not forget the countless amazing discoveries we've all made that are songs that had been years old at the time they'd been entered. Will You Remember Me Tomorrow, for one... I'd really like the next BJSC to be without all this DRAMA :drama: If anything it makes it all a bit more interesting!
June 6, 201213 yr Rules that have no flexibility at all aren't brilliant rules for the dynamic world of the internet. I'm a bit old-fashioned, sorry.
June 6, 201213 yr I prefer to see rules for things like this as guidelines. The principles behind the rules should always be remembered when applying them - the rules were just decided as the best way of applying those principles. Mindlessly following rules without any extent whatsoever for flexibility and the actual spirit behind the rules just makes for ridiculous decision-making, always.
June 6, 201213 yr I think the connection could only be described 'too large' if in some way it was damaging it, and I don't necessarily see how having a birth connection with the ESC damages the contest unless tomorrow everyone started sending old Eurovision entries and national final entries, which just isn't going to happen. The contest pretty much stands on its own in the eyes of pretty much everyone on the forum by now I imagine, and I don't see how it'd damage the contest to remove the ban on all Eurovision entries if people started making the odd lovely discovery out of it. I'd say that you're nearly right but I'd modify it - the spirit of the contest is introducing people to unknown, inspired music. It may or may not be new - let's not forget the countless amazing discoveries we've all made that are songs that had been years old at the time they'd been entered. Will You Remember Me Tomorrow, for one... If anything it makes it all a bit more interesting! Not new as in brand new, new as in new to them. Just poorly worded. I don't honestly see any benefit in letting through Eurovision songs but we'll have a chat about it. I prefer to see rules for things like this as guidelines. The principles behind the rules should always be remembered when applying them - the rules were just decided as the best way of applying those principles. Mindlessly following rules without any extent whatsoever for flexibility and the actual spirit behind the rules just makes for ridiculous decision-making, always. Which is why we allowed it through.
June 6, 201213 yr Voted! :cheer: Despite being in the "indie" semi, there were quite a few songs I liked, and I especially loved my top 5!! :D There weren't that many songs I really didn't like so that's good!
June 6, 201213 yr Can I just say Isconia better make it to the final. Their Bon Iver cover is AMAZING. And I don't even like Bon Iver this excepted.
June 6, 201213 yr For those of you who remember Katie Sky from BJSC 40, she has uploaded an acoustic cover of Euphoria!! I love it! :wub: aYSZDnLVtCw
June 6, 201213 yr I've voted. I actually think the "indie" semi last time round was stronger than the pop one this month.
June 6, 201213 yr Can I just say Isconia better make it to the final. Their Bon Iver cover is AMAZING. And I don't even like Bon Iver this excepted. It's nice to have a track that's mentioned at all in the voting thread!
June 6, 201213 yr Those in Semi 1 better be voting for Sigur Rós and Woodkid! I don't like having no control over their fates. </3
June 7, 201213 yr 1:00-1:03 in Idea of Happiness needs to win this. hope people are reppin ruby frost too
June 7, 201213 yr Voted in what must be RECORD TIME. Good points - The first half was really quite brilliant. - Finding a guilty pleasure! - The amount of French Bad points - The second half being full of the campiest, most generic shit in perhaps ANY edition I've ever participated in. At least it wasn't the first half. - 128kbit/s mp3s! They're unlistenable for me! Fortunately the songs themselves sounded piss poor, so no real harm done. - Shy'm's song requires a space in between "alors" and the exclamation mark since the French require some punctuation to count as an entire word (not good for getting under essay word counts when you like to use guillemets). Keypopian Republic's entry may need 'Drageur' in lower case, as Numayania's entry is, but that's not a hard and fast rule. I'm done now. My scores/10 were as follows: 8.5 7.8 7.7 7.6 7.1 7 6.4 6.3 6.2 6.1 6 5.9 5.7 5.2 4.8 4.7 4.1 3.7 2.9 2.5 2.1 2 1.9 1.5
June 7, 201213 yr I think my entry would be classified under that "campiest, most generic shit ever" category :lol:.
June 7, 201213 yr I think my entry would be classified under that "campiest, most generic shit ever" category :lol:. I thought yours was quite good actually! It just didn't really stand out from the crowd too much.
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