http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/17/politics...ghts/index.html

 

In the fiestiest debate, Bernie made the same 58-point summer lead and electability arguments I made and challenged Hillary directly, with supporters supposedly worried it is a repeat of 2008 at this point like I was saying.

Of course he's going to make that point, self-promotion is part of the game. Doesn't make you saying it any more correct.

I should also add that at implied odds of about 20% that he'll be the nominee, if someone so wished they could make a fair amount of money if they were convinced Sanders will definitely win.

Hmm :thinking: :hmm:

 

I am convinced so it could be a good call...

Sarah Palin is endorsing Donald Trump. Interesting.

Sarah Palin is endorsing Donald Trump. Interesting.

Let's face it, they were made for each other.

Clinton is really cool

I'm 90% certain at this point that HelenSpark is Britney

Wonder if Trump would pick Palin for his running mate.

Edited January 20, 20169 yr by Common Sense

God it would be BEAUTIFUL TO WATCH

A disaster waiting to happen!

 

When are the republican/democrat votes?

Edited January 20, 20169 yr by Steve201

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/21/politics...linkId=20561745

Bernie has huuuge double digit leads in the early states now.it's ovwr :(

Uhhh...no. This is Iowa.

 

http://i.imgur.com/oGB3jv0.png

Iowa is one of the whitest states in the union. Hilary does so much better with minorities that she will be comfortably ahead in states that aren't quite so whitewashed.

I wonder whether as the campaign continues her lead with minorities might slip a little as Sanders continues to break out of his traditional base. She's still massive favourite in the national picture though, obviously.

Well, there's a new poll out of the far less white Nevada, where Clinton has only a 4-point lead

 

http://overtimepolitics.com/clinton-holds-...n-nevada-47-43/

Worth noting that, though it is of course almost certainly an outlier, there was a New Hampshire poll the other day giving Bernie a 27 point lead (60-33). And he even had a 3 point lead in the last poll by Gravis Marketing which is apparently massively skewed towards older voters so shows a substantial bias towards Hillary. Iowa is still up in the air but NH is looking like a safe win for Bernie.

We have lost Hillary as President now thanks to the Bernie Bros. I can't help but think misogyny played more than a little part in it...

Care to share the time travel/universe hopping technology you have invented/stolen/purchased in order to travel back in time, from an alternate universe, to inform of this outcome?

 

Realistically Hillary is fine, she'll lose both NH and Iowa, but still win overall. It'll be a harder fight than they expected even just a few weeks ago, but in big picture terms she's still a long way off losing to Bernie overall. No doubt we'll see a decent bump for Bernie after he wins those 2, but I doubt it'll be enough to best her in places where she has support across a broader range of demographics than he does (and indeed states WITH a broader range of demographics too).

 

The general is, of course, an entirely different story and I won't pretend to be knowledgable enough about that, but having a tougher fight now might not be the worst thing in the long run if it prepares her better for the big fight ahead.

The one hang up I have about Hilary is (especially if Trump's the nominee which I'm still none the wiser as to whether or not that's likely to happen, but even then I guess it still applies a bit regardless) that there's a route of attack with her to paint her as 'establishment/they're all the same/liar liar pantsuit on fire' which leaves the free world vulnerable to a madman being its leader.

 

But assuming a good result, Hilary and Bernie would both make good presidents (also the Republicans being out of the White House for a generation is always a good thing).