My ranking:

 

1. Flatline - fantastic, a classic Who episode with a great plot that posed an actual threat. Clara taking control was excellent to see too, she's really come into her own this series!

2. Mummy on the Orient Express

3. Time Heist

4. Deep Breath

5. Into the Dalek

6. Robot of Sherwood

7. The Caretaker

8. Listen

9. Kill the Moon - mostly great but the first and second halves don't seem to fit together that well :lol:

10. In the Forest of the Night - very enjoyable but seemed like a filler episode more than anything really, I echo what's been said already.

 

It's been SUCH a good series so far though, not a single *bad* episode IMO which is a HUGE change from series 6 and 7 which were pretty awful on the whole (series 7 has some great episodes among the shite though - Asylum and Angels are my favourites).

The intrigue of Missy has had me hooked but if we find our she's Clara's daughter or anything absurd like that it would be such a let down to what has been a consistent series.

Well she obviously isn't going to be anybody like that, and I'm doubtful she'll be as big an enemy as people are suggesting, like the Master and the Rani - although she would be a PERFECT choice for the Rani IMO - I think she'll be somebody a lot more low-key, but a fantastic villain nonetheless.

Ranking~

 

1. Flatline

2. Kill the Moon

3. Mummy on the Orient Express

4. Time Heist

5. The Caretaker

6. Listen

7. Deep Breath

8. Robot of Sherwood

9. Into the Dalek

10. In the Forest of the Night

 

(on a side note can everyone NOT keep calling 'In the Forest of the Night': 'Into the Forest of the Night' and 'Robot of Sherwood': 'Robots of Sherwood' - they are not the titles. BYE)

 

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Viewing figures, fully updated (now including some L+7 figures also!):

 

Deep Breath · Overnight: 6.8m, Final: 9.17m, L+7: 10.76m, AI: 82

Into the Dalek · Overnight: 5.2m, Final: 7.29m, L+7: 8.26m, AI: 84

Robot of Sherwood · Overnight: 5.2m, Final: 7.28m, L+7: 8.25m, AI: 82

Listen · Overnight: 4.8m, Final: 7.01m, L+7: 7.80m, AI: 82

Time Heist · Overnight: 4.93m, Final: 6.99m, AI: 84

The Caretaker · Overnight: 4.89m, Final: 6.82m, AI: 83

Kill the Moon · Overnight: 4.81m, Final: 6.91m, AI: 82

Mummy on the Orient Express · Overnight: 5.08m, Final: 7.11m, AI: 85

Flatline · Overnight: 4.6m, Final: 6.71m, AI: 85

In the Forest of the Night · Overnight: 5.03m, Final: TBA, AI: 83

So, favourite theory for who Missy is?

The Master - please no

River - could work but best not.

The Rani - too obvious

Clara - Just NO.

The Tardis - Makes no sense

Romana - Quite like that. She wasn't in our universe during the Time War so could have survived. But why seemingly a villain?

Clara - Just NO.

Why? Aside from the Rani, it's the only theory that makes any sense whatsoever, considering Clara seems to be at the epicentre of what happens in the episode also. She could be one of Clara's splinters gone horribly wrong, and that could be potentially fabulous.

Why should Missy be someone we know, though

Why should Missy be someone we know, though

 

I think that's because in the trailer Missy says to the Doctor 'you know who I am' or words to that extent but its whether its a character we as the audience know from the shows history or a new character creation.

 

I'm thinking if the theme has been to restore/protect the dead then maybe she's a character who's died before and the Doctor knows her that way :wacko:

 

Though with Moffatt anything goes, I can't wait to find out though!

 

Also don't know if its been mentioned but the series finale next week is an hour long episode! I really hope this finale is an epic one and not too 'timey whimey' as most Moffatt stories have been

Wouldn't rule out her being a brand new character that until this point only the Doctor has known - after all everybody kept speculating who Tasha Lem would be, and she was only known to the Doctor in the end.

 

I really don't see 'timey wimey' coming into the story at all either - I think that's something that's been left in the distant past along with a lot of other things of significance in Matt's era.

Why? Aside from the Rani, it's the only theory that makes any sense whatsoever, considering Clara seems to be at the epicentre of what happens in the episode also. She could be one of Clara's splinters gone horribly wrong, and that could be potentially fabulous.

Because that would make it the second series in a row where it all revilves around her and she's just not that interesting a character. She's already too signifigant in The Doctor's life as it is. There's a reason people are calling the show Clara Who now. It would be too much

Because that would make it the second series in a row where it all revilves around her and she's just not that interesting a character. She's already too signifigant in The Doctor's life as it is. There's a reason people are calling the show Clara Who now. It would be too much

The show always revolves around the companion to a degree anyway? Amy and Rory both dominated the first part of series 7, while Amy dominated series 5. River dominated series 6, etc. Clara's no exception to that.

 

I really don't understand why people say she's too significant in the Doctor's life either? She helped him choose the right TARDIS, she entered his time tunnel and she's seen all of his incarnations (the only difference to the likes of Rose, Martha, Donna and Amy (and any other companion actually) being that she's been there and seen them in the flesh, while the others have only seen/heard of them, but that isn't really that big a deal anyway).

 

People claimed in series 7 that she was just along for the ride and was a bit too bland a character to actually enjoy watching, but now that series 8 has been all about her, we've seen her background, we've seen how she works, what type of person she is and where her life is going, a few people aren't happy with it? So we've had both ends of the scale really, and I can't have seen just 'upping' it a little to make her a little more interesting a companion this series working, but you can't please everyone at the end of the day...

Listen suggested she inspired him to become the man he is, she guided him into the Tardis we know and she's been protecting him all his life. How is that not too signifigant? She's basically his guardian angel.

I think she will be the Valeyard.

I think she will be the Valeyard.

Forgot to mention The Valeyard. I could see that work but it could be too similar to Trial if they're not careful

Listen suggested she inspired him to become the man he is, she guided him into the Tardis we know and she's been protecting him all his life. How is that not too signifigant? She's basically his guardian angel.

Whether it's of great significance or not, can we not embrace the fact that she's become one of the most important companions in the Doctor's history? Whether it was her or any other human from Earth, somebody still could have led the Doctor to the TARDIS, not just randomly picking one off his own accord. I think, personally, that's why I love her so much in the show - she's actually been an integral part of the Doctor's life, as opposed to just being a random pretty girl who's here for the adventure and seeing all the planets.

The only suggestion I haven't seen mentioned much is that she's a regenerated version of the Doctor's daughter (from the episode of the same title). Quite possible, but it wouldn't explain why she's suddenly taken on a more nefarious nature.

 

But realistically, I think she's either going to be revealed to be either a) The Valeyard, or b) a previously unmentioned character of Time Lord/Lady origins related to the Doctor's past.

I don't see it being any character from Classic-Who that we haven't seen before. She'll either be something connected to Clara or an unseem Time Lord/Lady.

I think the problem with Clara being so significant is that it also happened last series only it was a completely different story. Amy and Rory were significant during their time of course but it was all one long story for them. Donna was significant for one series only as was Rose (her second series did not revolve around her) and Martha wasn't significant at all. I breathed a sigh of relief once Clara's mystery was over and was very glad to see her fleshed out in this series but I'm now wary that she seems to have another mystery.

 

I want Missy to be the Rani or something because it feels like ages since we had a good nod to the past. So far Missy feels similar to many DW villains, why do we need another one?

Edited November 1, 201410 yr by T Boy

The Doctor has a daughter??

 

So I've finally been able to see (most) of the series - skipped that ridiculous one about the giant space egg and the Forest one and the nonsensical Dalek one. The series has been ... ok, but that Blitzer creature for example was awful. And that ridiculously cheesy flip? My god!

 

The parts with Missy are the best ones.

 

I really liked the episode 'Listen'. It's probably the best one since Amy and Rory's departure or maybe even the Flesh twist.

 

I think there MUST have been something there as the door opened itself and there was a knocking on the DOOR, not around other places. The blurry creature on the bed looked alien and moved fast. It would also have entered without the Doctor seeing it, either just BEFORE he entered the room/ corridor or had been there all along.

 

Mommy, etc, were ok episodes but a bit boring.

 

The Clara real lie thing feels a bit contrived and forced in there in order to make us feel more for her character when it's revealed she 'doesn't exist'. It's setting everyone up for that and then when she complains her life has been a lie, it will have reference points we've seen.

Let's hope its not a reset switch :D

 

Mind you there was talk of bringing Rani into the fold at some point.

Clearly Missy will be a reincarnation of Harriet Jones, our beloved PM from earlier times.