Katy release ROAR noww!!!!

Katy's team will be smart enough to release it on a sunday

Its a joke that the UK is the only place not to have ROAR yet, hope they are just waiting until sunday!!

So people moan that GaGa's release of 'Applause' is messy and a complete sham while others (or the same people :lol:) moan that 'Roar' hasn't been released OA/OS. Only on Buzzjack. :lol:

iTunes Update

 

[01] 01| Ellie Goulding - Burn

[**] 02| Lady GaGa - Applause

[02] 03| Avicii - Wake Me Up

[03] 04| Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop

[04] 05| Lana Del Rey & Cedric Gervais - Summertime Sadness

[05] 06| Arctic Monkeys - Why'd You Only Call Me When You're High?

[08] 07| Jay-Z (ft. Justin Timberlake) - Holy Grail

[07] 08| Tinie Tempah (ft. 2 Chainz) - Trampoline

[06] 09| The Wanted - We Own The Night

[13] 10| Ray Foxx (ft. Rachel K Collier) - Boom Boom (Heartbeat)

 

[12] 11| Drake (ft. Majid Jordan) - Hold On, We're Going Home

[09] 12| Robin Thicke (ft. T.I. & Pharell) - Blurred Lines

[10] 13| John Newman - Love Me Again

[11] 14| One Direction - Best Song Ever

[14] 15| Calvin Harris (ft. Ayah Marar) - Thinking About You

[15] 16| will.i.am - Bang Bang

[16] 17| Passenger - Let Her Go

[17] 18| Imagine Dragons - It's Time

[19] 19| Disclosure - F For You

[18] 20| Rudimental (ft. Foxes) - Right Here

 

[20] 21| Naughty Boy (ft. Sam Smith) - La La La

[21] 22| Of Monsters & Men - Little Talks

[23] 23| Icona Pop (ft. Charlie XCX) - I Love It

[22] 24| Arctic Monkeys - Do I Wanna Know?

[24] 25| Justin Timberlake - Take Back The Night

[26] 26| Selena Gomez - Come & Get It

[31] 27| OneRepublic - Counting Stars

[25] 28| Kings Of Leon - Wait For Me

[29] 29| Pink (ft. Lily Allen) - True Love

[27] 30| Le Youth - C O O L

 

[28] 31| Toploader - Dancing In The Moonlight

[30] 32| Eliza Doolittle - Big When I Was Little

[32] 33| Taylor Swift (ft. Ed Sheeran) - Everything Has Changed

[34] 34| Jason Derulo - The Other Side

[33] 35| Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Can't Hold Us

[37] 36| Katy Perry - Roar

[36] 37| Daft Punk (ft. Pharell Williams) - Get Lucky

[35] 38| Breach - Jack

[**] 39| Kings Of Leon - Use Somebody

[38] 40| Bruno Mars - Treasure

 

Selected Others:

 

[54] 57| Bastille - Things We Lost In The Fire

[63] 66| Klangkarussell (ft. Will Heard) - Sonnentanz (Sun Don't Shine)

[65] 69| Miguel - Adorn

[67] 71| The Vaccines - Melody Calling

[71] 75| Select Hits - Sonnentanz (Sun Don't Shine)

[**] 93| Panic! At The Disco (ft. Lolo) - Miss Jackson

[**] 99| Olly Murs - Right Place Right Time

No matter what 'adjustment' you make, there is no possible way you can seriously say 'Poker Face' is as big a hit as 'Blurred Lines' when it's been outsold already in less than 3 months. Sales haven't increased THAT much. (The 'post-album single' argument is more relevant perhaps but by the time 'Blurred Lines' is reduced to trickle sales it's going to be far enough ahead of 'Poker Face' to account for people who bought the album instead of just the song unless you want to be deluded and say it lost out on hundreds of thousands of sales from that).

 

I'm not even saying 'Poker Face' wasn't massive (it was the highest selling single of 2009 after all, ignoring the fact 'I Gotta Feeling' overtook it shortly afterwards), but it's just being deluded to deny 'Blurred Lines' is much bigger.

But sales from 2009 to 2013 HAVE increased that much.

 

The average #1 sale for 2009 up to 15 August was 70,124 (using this site's chart vault).

The average #1 sale for 2013 up to 17 August was 117,811 (again using this site's chart vault).

 

Therefore giving a multiplier of x1.68.

 

So when BL has sold at least 1.68x as much as PF (1.68m??), then the sales argument for BL being a bigger hit than PF starts to stack up. Otherwise it's kinda redundant.

Edited August 14, 201311 yr by Snow Spiider

Is We Own the Night gonna miss the top 10? :lol: (wouldn't surprise me really; it's not that great, and such a disappointment in comparison to WLR).

Just heard Sonnentanz for the first time! This has to go to number 1 next week! What a tune!

But sales from 2009 to 2013 HAVE increased that much.

 

The average #1 sale for 2009 up to 15 August was 70,124 (using this site's chart vault).

The average #1 sale for 2013 up to 17 August was 117,811 (again using this site's chart vault).

 

Therefore giving a multiplier of x1.68.

 

So when BL has sold at least 1.68x as much as PF (1.68m??), then the sales argument for BL being a bigger hit than PF starts to stack up. Otherwise it's kinda redundant.

 

What would the multiplier be if you used the average #200 sales instead of the average #1 sales?

Kworb Combined Popularity Bars (Top 40 Only)

 

01 1.0000 Ellie Goulding - Burn

02 0.6786 Lady GaGa - Applause

03 0.6516 Avicii - Wake Me Up

04 0.5889 Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop

05 0.4479 Lana Del Rey / Cedric Gervais - Summertime Sadness

06 0.2740 Arctic Monkeys - Why'd You Only Call Me When You're High?

07 0.2596 JAY Z / Justin Timberlake - Holy Grail

08 0.2570 Tinie Tempah / 2 Chainz - Trampoline

09 0.2327 The Wanted - We Own The Night

10 0.2289 Ray Foxx / Rachel K Collier - Boom Boom (Heartbeat)

 

11 0.2185 Robin Thicke / T.I. / Pharrell - Blurred Lines

12 0.2142 John Newman - Love Me Again

13 0.2019 Drake / Majid Jordan - Hold On, We're Going Home

14 0.1975 Calvin Harris / Ayah Marar - Thinking About You

15 0.1808 One Direction - Best Song Ever

16 0.1448 will.i.am - Bang Bang

17 0.1446 Naughty Boy / Sam Smith - La La La

18 0.1388 Icona Pop / Charli XCX - I Love It

19 0.1378 Passenger - Let Her Go

20 0.1260 Arctic Monkeys - Do I Wanna Know?

 

21 0.1211 Imagine Dragons - It's Time

22 0.1187 Disclosure - F For You

23 0.1136 Rudimental / Foxes - Right Here

24 0.1060 Of Monsters And Men - Little Talks

25 0.0982 P!nk / Lily Allen - True Love

26 0.0980 Daft Punk / Pharrell Williams - Get Lucky

27 0.0892 Justin Timberlake - Take Back The Night

28 0.0812 Selena Gomez - Come & Get It

29 0.0782 Le Youth - C O O L

30 0.0781 Kings Of Leon - Wait For Me

 

31 0.0770 Toploader - Dancing In The Moonlight

32 0.0763 OneRepublic - Counting Stars

33 0.0762 Eliza Doolittle - Big When I Was Little

34 0.0739 Taylor Swift / Ed Sheeran - Everything Has Changed

35 0.0723 Jason Derulo - The Other Side

36 0.0681 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis / Ray Dalton - Can't Hold Us

37 0.0670 Katy Perry - Roar (Pre-Order)

38 0.0664 Olly Murs - Dear Darlin'

39 0.0651 Breach - Jack

40 0.0590 Kings Of Leon - Use Somebody

 

the IMPACT of Ellie Goulding. <3

Go Ellie :cheer: :cheer:

I think The Wanted will definitely chart top 10 this week...unfortunately.

What would the multiplier be if you used the average #200 sales instead of the average #1 sales?

 

Around 1.35.

Around 1.35.

So sales at the top end of the chart have increased by more than at the lwoer end of the chart?

 

Do you have similar multipliers for #2, #3, #4, #5, #10, #20, #30, #40, #75, etc?

But sales from 2009 to 2013 HAVE increased that much.

 

The average #1 sale for 2009 up to 15 August was 70,124 (using this site's chart vault).

The average #1 sale for 2013 up to 17 August was 117,811 (again using this site's chart vault).

 

Therefore giving a multiplier of x1.68.

 

So when BL has sold at least 1.68x as much as PF (1.68m??), then the sales argument for BL being a bigger hit than PF starts to stack up. Otherwise it's kinda redundant.

 

I think this just goes to show how difficult it is to compare hits between two different sales eras. Who has had the 'bigger hit'? Absolute sales figures vary too much and are too crude, how about weeks at no.1 or chart run based on a points system? Or even what has had the biggest 'cultural impact' which is completely subjective anyway.

 

Look at 'Umbrella' for example. 10 weeks at no.1 but by year end in 2007 barely sold 500k. Imagine what a 10 week run at the top these days would sell, you'd be talking well over 2 million.

 

 

I posted two extra links afterwards, which actually DO have data about races, and proves there is differences between genres (although I think it was for the US so you might just ignore it again).

 

- I never said the world was only the US.

- I never said R&B fans were all black (I'm a white R&B fan)

- I never said most of the dark-skinned population like R&B, I said a higher proportion of R&B fans are black than the general population is

- Bhangra is relevent to this discussion. All styles of music are, you can't just pick and choose

I never said Robin Thicke's fans were all black. I said most of them are. Apparently his audience is 90% African American females (although that could be different now after Blurred Lines :lol:). Watch at 2:40 in this interview:

 

 

There's a male One Direction fan on this forum I think! :lol: I'm not stupid enough to think they have no male fans, but I'm sure most of their fans are female.

 

 

I think it is funny that you blindly follow any statistic that you see and take it as gospel truth.

I'm not surprised at all at Gaga "underperforming". I did think some of her fans when they were predicting it to storm straight to #1 weren't really appreciating that she's in a much different position than she was in early 2011: she lost a LOT of momentum with her last era, first with a bit of a backlash, and then over the past 18 months, I feel like there's been almost an indifference to her (which is arguably worse than being disliked) - I was struck by how little hype there was for her outside her fanbase. Not comparable to 'Born This Way' coming out which did feel like a genuine event.

 

That's not to say 'Applause' can't become a hit in the long run (I do personally think it's a big grower so we'll see), but it was always going to be an uphill task for her this time, and she was always going to have to work to win people over again.

I'm predicting that ' Applause ' will debut at around #05-#07 this week, It's not really gained a massive lead and should start decreasing tonight / tomorrow.

It's funny some haters on here are doubting 'Applause' having a chance next week and the general public wanting to buy it. So many people I know who don't like Gaga, actually LOVE the song and the music video is going to help a lot. Ellie is quite frontloaded, her sales next week are not going to be unbeatable by any means and let's face it 'Sonnentanz' isn't going to be huge, there's not really hype behind it at all. 'Applause' however will be increasing next week with the music video, so logically it is going to be the likely #1 contender.

 

A 'Telephone' Pt 2 type video would be so perfect! :wub:

 

The pre-order of 'Sonnentanz (Sun Don't Shine)' is #61 and there's a fake version of it at #76, I'd say that's pretty indicative of it being huge :P I wouldn't rule Gaga out completely yet but if it looks like she's not able to get #1 on her fanbase alone this time when she did so with ease with 'Born This Way'... also remember the video release of 'Born This Way' did pretty much nothing for that so it's not a guaranteed massive boost.

There's been no buzz around GaGa since 'Born This Way', really. I'm not surprised she's underperforming (by expectations).

 

And Poker Face on the same level as Blurred Lines? Lol. The former was a bit hit, sure, but the latter is a phenomenon. I've never saw anything as unstoppable as Blurred Lines before.