Glad that ITV Daybreak have just pointed out that they have "more holidays and better pensions than any other profession"

 

Can anyone explain to me why they're allowed to strike when only 25% actually voted for a strike? I thought you needed a majority? :rolleyes:

A majority of those who voted ;)

A majority of those who voted ;)

 

 

Oh I see. So the rest weren't bothered whether they went on strike or not! :rolleyes:

my local school has the year 6 lads in for sats practice and the rest off... ouch... i remember doing my tests a while ago!

Glad that ITV Daybreak have just pointed out that they have "more holidays and better pensions than any other profession"

But wages rising slower than inflation, unlike most of the private sector.

 

Can anyone explain to me why they're allowed to strike when only 25% actually voted for a strike? I thought you needed a majority? :rolleyes:

If that were the rule in a general election you'd have about three MPs.

Glad that ITV Daybreak have just pointed out that they have "more holidays and better pensions than any other profession"

Only if you assume that no teacher does any work in the school holidays.

Do you believe in the right to strike Common Sense?

Do you believe in the right to strike Common Sense?

 

 

Yes if it's for a good enough reason.

Only if you assume that no teacher does any work in the school holidays.

 

 

I know a lot of secondary school teachers do, and at weekends too, as they have a lot of homework to mark. I know a history teacher who walks her dog where I walk mine and she has to mark over 100 essays every Sunday. I don't think primary teachers do as much as after all they only set a little homework about once a week.

I know a lot of secondary school teachers do, and at weekends too, as they have a lot of homework to mark. I know a history teacher who walks her dog where I walk mine and she has to mark over 100 essays every Sunday. I don't think primary teachers do as much as after all they only set a little homework about once a week.

Therefore they don't get longer holidays than anyone else. Just periods when they don't work so many hours.

 

There is also more than just homework to be marked. Every lesson has to be planned and that takes time. I had to prepare a 20 minute lesson a while ago and it took several hours.

Work doesn't end when you leave the school building for teachers. It's often 9 by the time I can relax and I always spend a good chunk of holidays marking, planning and preparing resources. In fact, I did not strike today because I simply had too much to do and I had 2 exam groups whose exam is 7 weeks away. They only have one lesson a week and a language subject isn't something you can leave up to a cover teacher.

As a student, you can see that teachers find it hard to keep on top of everything and do a consistently good job, which they usually do. I would not envy to be a teacher the day before Ofsted come round.

I'm always on the fence with teacher's striking. As a fellow occupier back in the day I understand it's highly hypocritical of me to think that teachers going on strike doesn't set the best example for younger kids?

What annoys me is that teachers become so defensive and won't even listen to any criticism of their job. One of our group of dog-walkers flew up at one guy who dared to say on Saturday morning that they get too many holidays. :o She was shouting and really nasty and could have just let it go for the sake of harmony in the group. She brought the teaching subject up by saying she had a load of essays to mark. Wasn't me who said it btw. :lol: Why are they like that? I've noticed it on forums too. Any teachers thread on DS is a hot topic too and results in arguments. Don't they realise that's a common held view amongst the general public, mainly because of some of the press?

Edited April 4, 201411 yr by Common Sense

I'm always on the fence with teacher's striking. As a fellow occupier back in the day I understand it's highly hypocritical of me to think that teachers going on strike doesn't set the best example for younger kids?

How on earth does it set a bad example?! When you're being fucked over unjustly by your employer, you stand up for yourself. That's a good example to set.

But going on strike means the kids lose teaching time? Or their lumbered with a TA?

What annoys me is that teachers become so defensive and won't even listen to any criticism of their job. One of our group of dog-walkers flew up at one guy who dared to say on Saturday morning that they get too many holidays. :o She was shouting and really nasty and could have just let it go for the sake of harmony in the group. She brought the teaching subject up by saying she had a load of essays to mark. Wasn't me who said it btw. :lol: Why are they like that? I've noticed it on forums too. Any teachers thread on DS is a hot topic too and results in arguments. Don't they realise that's a common held view amongst the general public, mainly because of some of the press?

You've answered your own question. It's hardly surprising that teachers get fed up with people thinking it's an easy job with long holidays.

What annoys me is that teachers become so defensive and won't even listen to any criticism of their job. One of our group of dog-walkers flew up at one guy who dared to say on Saturday morning that they get too many holidays. :o She was shouting and really nasty and could have just let it go for the sake of harmony in the group. She brought the teaching subject up by saying she had a load of essays to mark. Wasn't me who said it btw. :lol: Why are they like that? I've noticed it on forums too. Any teachers thread on DS is a hot topic too and results in arguments. Don't they realise that's a common held view amongst the general public, mainly because of some of the press?

 

I have had enough of this. Once again you spout uninformed rubbish. Why do you keep stating the same points over and over again?

 

Your utter ignorance of the subject is shown up again by your comments on primary schools.

You obviously think we stroll in about five to nine, put our feet up on the table with a coffee and let the kids do what they want until we leave at 3.30.

 

I have had a wage freeze for 5 years. My pay has completely lagged behind inflation for that long. Plus the cost of my pension has risen as well.

 

Your comment about homework is offensive to say the least. Year 1 get one piece of homework a week that has to be marked. That's YEAR ONE!

This goes up steadily until Year 6 and they get much more mainly because of the SATs.

 

Primary Teachers have to teach every single subject on the curriculum. And mark every piece of work.

I have to work (as I have told you before) every Sunday for about 4-5 hours at least to catch up on things that don't get during the week and on planning for the following week.

This is time I would much rather be spending with my daughter but I love my job so I make the sacrifice. Holidays to me are a chance to spend more time with her.

 

That is not to say that I don't spend time planning assessing and marking during the holidays.

 

Also teachers are not actually paid for the holidays. We are paid only for the contracted hours we do and then this is split up into twelve equal payments.

 

I would love for you to just teach for one day to see what it is really like.

 

 

No wonder we get defensive.

But going on strike means the kids lose teaching time? Or their lumbered with a TA?

There is a loss of teaching time but there is strong evidence that the lost time is very quickly caught up with so no loss of learning actually takes place.