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I haven't had an entry vetoed yet but it could still happen! The only time my entry was stolen was Cerrone - The Impact, it particularly annoyed me at the time as I'd spent a good few hours searching through random stuff then came across that which just sounded like it would do well (and only had 10,000 views at the time too). Turns out it did very well - sadly not for Niceland :( It remains a tune though!
Yes xx
then I’m doing my job correctly

 

That said I’m still bitter about St. Lucia - Help Me Run Away and YONAKA - Rockstar getting vetoed

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I could be completely mistaken but from glancing at the posts in recent contests during the confirmation window there seems to always be this mad rush to get the next big thing sent into this contest. I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, but is it always the same people getting vetoed due to lack of speedy confirmations? It seems like the “first come first served” method is a little harsh on some others who often seem to be subjected to rejected entries. I haven’t had this myself but I can’t say I haven’t noticed it increasingly more in recent months.

Entry clashes aren't vetoes, we just literally can't allow multiple people to send the same song, it would make no sense. I'm not sure how anything other than making it first come first serve would be less 'harsh'?

 

There are definitely people who get caught in these clashes more often than others but that's just because they stray less from sending safe obvious pop entries, that's just part of the game xx

Entry clashes aren't vetoes, we just literally can't allow multiple people to send the same song, it would make no sense. I'm not sure how anything other than making it first come first serve would be less 'harsh'?

 

There are definitely people who get caught in these clashes more often than others but that's just because they stray less from sending safe obvious pop entries, that's just part of the game xx

 

I agree with this. If you're a part of this sorta "crowd pleaser" section of BJSC, you're going to have clashes. The pop hoes (and even the foreign pop hoes) all kinda pull from similar vibes, some months more than others, so first come first serve is the only real way to fairly do it.

Haha, I definitely expect it :lol:

 

Between myself, John and Cody - if there's not a clash at least once a year, then something is up!

I did make a suggestion a few months ago that when the confirmation period starts, it's only open to countries that didn't qualify in the previous contest for the first six hours.

I have had an artist but not entry confirmed before I got to them I think - that was very recently with Brutalismus 3000 although I'd intended sending a different track to the one Addy sent.

 

There are others I thought about confirming but didn't as arrived at the thread late and knew people had already got there first - Smith & Thell's Goliath being a major one, that finished at No.2 in my end of year 2020 chart so was a bit of a miss on my part, especially considering what a big win it was for Hendinia. Also I was aware of Magic and considered it last month but to be fair I actually discovered it via Kath's chart, so figured Kath was probably set on sending it.

2 years ago iirc, I wanted to send Emilie Adams - Monogamy the month after but POPHub beat me to it, and the next month I wanted to send MICHAELA - Tears in My Eyes but Ultraviolenceland beat me to it. :kink:

 

I don't think any of my potentials were stolen last year tbf, and definitely not this year so far, but it might happen with the hint of an Arabic bop being sent and I could see some of my entries lined up for next year being nabbed too :unsure:

I did make a suggestion a few months ago that when the confirmation period starts, it's only open to countries that didn't qualify in the previous contest for the first six hours.

Again, this would only benefit those who DNQ'd the month before, but I can see how it might seem like a fair suggestion but it wouldn't solve the regular qualifying nations who battle it out each month for the same entries.

 

I genuinely feel like, as much of a painful extra task it would be for the host and/or moderators, that advanced notice ought to be given to eligible participating nations that the confirmation window will be opening exactly X hours time, and you must submit your entry once the green light is on at the specified time. Maybe even having a countdown/banner in the BJSC forum to show what dates the confirmation window opens. This could also be a useful visual reminder for voters too.

You have entries lined up for 2024 in August of 2023, how or why is that? :lol:

I just have too many entries that I want to send to BJSC :kink:

Last year, I sent Armin van Buuren & Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Not Giving Up On Love (Frontliner Extended Remix), but got vetoed because the original was sent at a spin-off iirc. Then I switched up with Gareth Emery (feat. Alex & Sierra) - We Were Young (Mhammed El Alami Remix), then again, Gareth being 3x at top five made the veto point quite big.

 

Finally, I ended up with my NQ frenchcore entry Re-Style & Cammie Robinson - One Last Dance.

Constantly. And for reasons that many others seem to be able to slip through the net for as well…
My worst month for this was the one where I initially entered Cake by Remi Wolf and it got vetoed (i was robbed). So I then entered LP Giobbi, only for someone else to have already confirmed them (albeit with a different song). So I then resorted to the Tensnake remix of Pray by MOTHERMARY, which would also have been disallowed had FARC(?) not switched it out for another entry last minute!

How often does it happen that there's a double confirmation and the first person who confirmed it later changes their entry?

 

In that case, would the mods/host let the second person know it's now free? I guess there's no obligation to do that really but the other person who wanted it would be miffed.

 

Then again, if something is so sought after and bound to do well I doubt anyone would be changing. Let's ignore my 36th place last month for a song a second person tried to confirm though! I guess 2/3 people after something still doesn't guarantee a hit.

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How often does it happen that there's a double confirmation and the first person who confirmed it later changes their entry?

 

In that case, would the mods/host let the second person know it's now free? I guess there's no obligation to do that really but the other person who wanted it would be miffed.

 

But what if 3 days later the original entrant finds out their second choice is vetoed and now they can't switch back as their original choice is now taken? Murky waters there but would be interesting to know if this has ever happened and what the moderator protocol is!

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