That is true however, I feel however bad Helen is in some of these confrontations she has been just giving her opinion and Brian has looked scary aggressive towards her in the first instance. He is obviously waiting to have a go. She probably deserves it but I think the gentle giant Brian is a myth.

 

I've gone off Nikki as well tbh.

Try living with a vile creature like Helen.

Try living with a vile creature like Helen.

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She is vile. My point is they aren't very nice either. I don't buy into Brian at all.

I don't think Brian is a gentle giant at all, but how could you not be riled up if Helen was talking down to you the way she does? I can't get my head around people filing them in the same categories, Brian gets wound up because Helen goads him, Helen actively calls people names like "rapist", "murderer", "cokehead". There is no comparison, full stop.

I don't think Brian is a gentle giant at all, but how could you not be riled up if Helen was talking down to you the way she does? I can't get my head around people filing them in the same categories, Brian gets wound up because Helen goads him, Helen actively calls people names like "rapist", "murderer", "cokehead". There is no comparison, full stop.

 

I don't condone what she does at all. I just feel in the individual situations he got aggressive first and was carrying feelings from previous "arguments". She then was completely unacceptable in what she said. His temper is scary though. The other housemates didn't react the way he did. I think it was Liam who said he wouldn;t give her the time of day, I would deal with it in a similar way to that and how Danny did, tell her what I think without letting her affect me and keep my distance. I appreciate everyone can't do the same.

I think brain was right to react as he did after she said that he looked like a murderer or rapist, my comment was only about what I'd see prior to that (mostly last week). I wouldn't expect even the most timid of people like Chloe for example to say nothing when labelled I'm that way! I do think jumping over the fence was a bit OTT but I guess, having seen it all now, I can see why. BB would have said "sleep on it" as they always do.

I don't condone what she does at all. I just feel in the individual situations he got aggressive first and was carrying feelings from previous "arguments". She then was completely unacceptable in what she said. His temper is scary though. The other housemates didn't react the way he did. I think it was Liam who said he wouldn;t give her the time of day, I would deal with it in a similar way to that and how Danny did, tell her what I think without letting her affect me and keep my distance. I appreciate everyone can't do the same.

I do see where you're coming from and I appreciate Brian could've handled things before on occasion but I do imagine it's a lot harder to act as Danny did from watching than it is actually spending time with her. In a confined space, previous feelings ARE going to be carried. Brian did kind of kickstart things but I'm thinking of things from a broader picture; Helen wasn't dealing with Danny like she was with Brian. Brian wasn't shouting on this occasion (though evidently angry) until Helen started the provoking "what are you gonna do?" tone of approach.

I do see where you're coming from and I appreciate Brian could've handled things before on occasion but I do imagine it's a lot harder to act as Danny did from watching than it is actually spending time with her. In a confined space, previous feelings ARE going to be carried. Brian did kind of kickstart things but I'm thinking of things from a broader picture; Helen wasn't dealing with Danny like she was with Brian. Brian wasn't shouting on this occasion (though evidently angry) until Helen started the provoking "what are you gonna do?" tone of approach.

 

His face did look like he wanted to punch her ( (he probably did) That was the point she should have backed off as he did look "on the edge" but as we know she never does that and started goading. Like Liam my first post this evening was before things went too far.

 

I just felt a bit uncomfortable with the hero's welcome Brian got on BOTS as he has not been blameless this last week. He has made things up and has been very aggressive. I'm guessing Helen will go on Friday and things can return to "normal". Whatever that means!

BASIC RATIONS FOR A BASIC BITCH

"Basic rations for a basic bitch" :lol: Loving the clips of Aisleyne on BBBOTS.

Im not really a Brian fan, never fully got his popularity, but Helen really goes too far sometimes and tonight been one of them, the rapist and murderer comments are a step too far and she really does need to learn how to keep her mouth shut in certain situations. Brian wasnt fully innocent either but i can understand how he reacted on those comments. I also think Helen has ruined Marc, he has attached himself far far too much too her and i do think he has slowly started to realise he has blown his chance of winning from spending so much time with her.

 

I just hope Nicki can get her mojo back, she is my favourite ever big brother contestant and still is but she is stiffled by Helen, i want the funny Nicki back, her reaction to the store room drama is typical Nicki and anyone who knows Nicki would expect nothing less from her and Helen knows that too well. I do believe there is a part of Helen that resents Nicki's popularity and how on the hole how well she has done from big brother.

OMG. Those clips of Aisleyne on BOTS!!

Problem with Brian is that he's not articulate enough to take Helen down in an argument do he just looks awful losing the plot!

 

She's a vile creature tho what ever way you look at it from, hope Aisleyne takes her down a notch. To think that tramp has a more successful life than a lot of hard working people is whats wrong with this country.

Really found tonight's episode uncomfortable (much like majority of last years series... and surprise, surprise it involved her again!) to watch. It really does baffle me how people can think that is "entertainment". It's vile. This cannot be condoned and C5 not removing her from the show, clearly suggests they think otherwise. It's been explosive, I agree. But I'm not entertained at all seeing bullies get their way and gain any sort of support, whatsoever.

 

C5 are lucky that I'm so invested in the series now and I just can't "switch off" easy with TV shows I'm invested in.

I don't condone what she does at all. I just feel in the individual situations he got aggressive first and was carrying feelings from previous "arguments". She then was completely unacceptable in what she said. His temper is scary though. The other housemates didn't react the way he did. I think it was Liam who said he wouldn;t give her the time of day, I would deal with it in a similar way to that and how Danny did, tell her what I think without letting her affect me and keep my distance. I appreciate everyone can't do the same.

But from the way you wrote essays about how Brian was wrong and scary etc. and only including mere "yeh helen was bad too x" it kinda looks like you are... defending it. As if she had an excuse to be vile and aggressive because Brian was. (no tl;dr explanation about how Brian looked like he wanted to punch her etc. needed~)

We are watching the show and discussing it like crazy whilst having strong opinions about the events and the housemates.. that is why i began watching Big Brother in the first place and that is why it is so entertaining. Maybe i am using the term incorrectly though. Of course there is bullying going on and i do not accept that and of course it is uncomfortable to watch but i can't stop watching and i anticipate every episode which must mean it is brilliant tv (albeit for the wrong reasons).

 

When Aisleyne comes in and gives us almighty fireworks that too will be incredible entertainment - will it be for you guys too?

 

This series has been explosive in the past few weeks and despite the horrible behaviour from Marc and Helen i have still found it unmissable tv. What other show do you get to see truly vile "real" people like this in? What other show makes you feel this angry, passionate, giddy, overwhelmed by?

 

*AGAIN I DO NOT CONDONE WHAT SHE DOES AND I HATE HER AND SHE IS THE SPAWN OF SATAN i am defending the SHOW not HER*

Anyway Aisleyne is back now :wub: I think it's every BB fan's dream to see her and Nicki reuinted so this is going to be immense. And if they team up to put Helen in her place too :D!!

How can you not be removed for calling someone a murderer/rapist?

 

At least Aisleyne would be someone to stand up to that vile creature, Helen.

 

 

But from the way you wrote essays about how Brian was wrong and scary etc. and only including mere "yeh helen was bad too x" it kinda looks like you are... defending it. As if she had an excuse to be vile and aggressive because Brian was. (no tl;dr explanation about how Brian looked like he wanted to punch her etc. needed~)

 

Not at all. Brian was wrong. Helen was wrong. She then took it too far. I just don't get the massive wholehearted support for Brian and as I said in a previous post my initial post was written before the "rapist" comments.

Edited June 25, 201510 yr by torresgirl

nah, helen can bully anyone in any way she likes there as long as it doesn't get physical

Can someone who watched the year Helen won perhaps explain to me ina couple of sentences how that happened? I am at a loss as she is clearly loathed. Was there someone worse?