I thought so. And yet I've seen in a few places that they've said it has been revealed on Sundays for over 30 years, and somewhere else for 50 years.

I think (older members will verify) that their was a chart show of sorts on a Sunday but it just repeated the previous Tuesday's chart?

I think (older members will verify) that their was a chart show of sorts on a Sunday but it just repeated the previous Tuesday's chart?

That is correct. AFAIK there has been a Sunday chart show on Radio 1 since it started in 1967 but only since Oct 1987 has said show actually aired the *new* chart.

I think (older members will verify) that their was a chart show of sorts on a Sunday but it just repeated the previous Tuesday's chart?

 

But it was a more comprehensive version on Sundays with selected plays between 40 and 21 and the top 20 in full.

 

The Sunday version also had the advantage of going out in stereo on Radio 2's FM frequency as Radio 1 was only on AM 80% of the time back then.

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Wasn't it moved around before during your 47 years? :D It was on Tuesdays in 1987, anyway, when I started listening to it - as far as I can remember.

 

it was announced in a quick rundown at 5 to 1 on tuesdays by Johnny Walker in about a minute flat (and others later did the same, it was never a case of playing all the records) and then played as a top 20 plus new entries lower down on sunday. As Newsbeat intimated though, it was the sunday rundown that was important cos we all had our tapes on pause (who could afford to buy everything you liked!). Top Of The Pops also played the rundown before sunday, till they changed the announcement day to sunday by being a bit better at collating. :lol:

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I'd be intersted to know who exactly you think the charts were aimed at back then, given that they have always been first aired on Radio 1, a station very much aimed at young people.

 

It's only the last 10 years that the chart has been retooled to appeal exclusively to young teenagers. Any adult could have enjoyed the format previous to that and I expect a lot of people in their 20s and 30s were interested.

 

But if you want to believe that it would be ok in this day and age to deliberately target teenagers for an audience yet air the show whilst they're all in school, fine by me. But everyone with a lick of commons sense knows that doing that would be the height of stupidity hence the many reactions in this thread when that was suggested.

Radio 1 was set up to appeal to young people, but it was never "target-age-manipulated" or condescending. DJ's didn't speak to their audience any differently than they spoke to adults, which is how so many of them transferred to TV so easily. Deliberately dumbing down, or trying to talk down as if you were addressing a 12-year-old is not the way forward - as I pointed out when Jameela started the chart show and became quickly very annoying. She grew out of it thankfully and showed a bit more wit and class. I know any celebrity that tried to talk down to me when I was that age just came over as a d*ck....

 

duck, i mean.

It will be interesting to see what Big Top 40 will do because the Official chart will be 2 days ahead and a lot more relevant, especially as the iTunes download continues to lose pace and market share to Spotify streaming. Interesting times ahead - oh and BBC could definitely bring back TOTP on Saturday evenings to air the new entries etc.

It will be interesting to see what Big Top 40 will do because the Official chart will be 2 days ahead and a lot more relevant, especially as the iTunes download continues to lose pace and market share to Spotify streaming. Interesting times ahead - oh and BBC could definitely bring back TOTP on Saturday evenings to air the new entries etc.

 

 

10 years ago when downloading started to become more mainstream I didn't think that within a decade that I'd be reading those words.

It will be interesting to see what Big Top 40 will do because the Official chart will be 2 days ahead and a lot more relevant, especially as the iTunes download continues to lose pace and market share to Spotify streaming. Interesting times ahead - oh and BBC could definitely bring back TOTP on Saturday evenings to air the new entries etc.

I'm assuming the Big Top 40 will remain on a Sunday. If the Big Top 40 programme does move to a Friday it wouldn't be possible to broadcast the programme until 7pm. This is because all of the stations that broadcast the Big Top 40 have to, under the terms of their radio licenses, broadcast local programming in both the Breakfast and Drive slots. Drive is classed as 4pm to 7pm. I can't see the stations wanting to broadcast a chart programme from 7pm onwards on a Friday night.

 

I think this is a good move, it keeps everything fresh. Plus I know this forum is full of chart geeks, but I think we have to ask ourselves how much the Chart in its current format will actually be relevant to the mass? I think the importance has really dropped off. I mean lots of people use Spotify/iTunes so if they're semi/regular users I think members can tell what is a high selling/popular track and also likely to be number 1. 10 years ago we didn't have access to this information.

 

I think eventually streaming will play much bigger part in the 'official' chart, when they reflect the weighting more in the future.

it was announced in a quick rundown at 5 to 1 on tuesdays by Johnny Walker in about a minute flat (and others later did the same, it was never a case of playing all the records) and then played as a top 20 plus new entries lower down on sunday. As Newsbeat intimated though, it was the sunday rundown that was important cos we all had our tapes on pause (who could afford to buy everything you liked!). Top Of The Pops also played the rundown before sunday, till they changed the announcement day to sunday by being a bit better at collating. :lol:

 

By the time I started listening to the Tuesday reveal it was Paul Burnett, he played 5, 4, 3, and 2, then did a whole Top 40 rundown and then played Number 1

 

I also don't remember this "top 20 plus new entries lower down" on Sunday, it was just the Top 20 for most of Tom Browne's period, then the whole Top 40 with just an odd record missed out sometimes to fit the 40 in a 2-hour slot.

 

 

 

This is how the chart sounded back in 1977. Just the Top 20 in full.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nJdX_7uvoE

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Then it went to 2 and a half hours, where they managed to play all 40 records, but they had to fade some of them out early.

By the time I started listening to the Tuesday reveal it was Paul Burnett, he played 5, 4, 3, and 2, then did a whole Top 40 rundown and then played Number 1

 

I also don't remember this "top 20 plus new entries lower down" on Sunday, it was just the Top 20 for most of Tom Browne's period, then the whole Top 40 with just an odd record missed out sometimes to fit the 40 in a 2-hour slot.

 

That was Alan Freeman's Pick Of The Pops period, a fab show where he played new releases, some of those going up outside the top 30, and new entries from 30 to 21. I loved Fluff. I would love any chart show DJ now that did that format too. B-)

 

Tom Browne sadly was an edited down version from late 1972 onwards, an hour long with a fade out for the bloody shipping forecast around about number 18. Radio 1 was poor reception in those days, so only the chart show was good enough to record from till it went FM.

That was Alan Freeman's Pick Of The Pops period, a fab show where he played new releases, some of those going up outside the top 30, and new entries from 30 to 21. I loved Fluff. I would love any chart show DJ now that did that format too. B-)

 

Tom Browne sadly was an edited down version from late 1972 onwards, an hour long with a fade out for the bloody shipping forecast around about number 18. Radio 1 was poor reception in those days, so only the chart show was good enough to record from till it went FM.

 

I remember the static on the AM frequency in those days listening to the chart, I never got a decent reception, I had to waggle the blinking aerial all the time, and funny enough I got a decent reception by keeping the radio outside on the window sill :lol: happy days :D

One advantage of the move - there should be fewer interruptions for events such as the Big Weekend.

That article gives me hope that it will be a more exciting show, we are clearly mostly against playing the long-runners that never go anywhere (and more often or not when I do try and listen to the chart I get bored before the top 10 so on a practical level 2 hours is better than 3), so that's a good reaction to where the chart is going for now - as much as I wish it would continue to get more and more new entries. I always try and count on Radio 1 to be a bit different and about the newer, fresher music so that's pleasing.

 

I don't know if everything's good about the move (although what was previously Buzzjack's deadest day will now be quite a bit more active for sure) but I'm looking forward to see how it works out.

Then it went to 2 and a half hours, where they managed to play all 40 records, but they had to fade some of them out early.

 

Only because Independent Radio Stations were targeting their individual top 40's at them. Later on the Network Chart was broadcast there and it was faster, the BBC chart audience plummeted, so they increased it. They even dropped the 4.30 news bulletin for fear of losing audience members not interested in Tory propaganda.

 

Radio One will need to build up the audience to convince the target listeners to actually tune in at that time. Friday tea time telly can be tough on Radio. There biggest audience being people driving home. Are they that interested in what's a 24?

 

Since we know it's stopping 15 minutes earlier and the top ten will be played, that will take 40 minutes assuming the average length of a record to be 3.30. I reckon they will play only another 16 records at the most in the time left.

 

I'm inclined to think the Big Top 40 will remain on Sundays. It's interesting that the release day is changing just after iTunes changed its pre-order rules to no longer artificially boost the song as it's first released. I haven't followed closely enough to see if new hit singles are still reaching the top 10 by the time the Big Top 40 is on air, but if they aren't, a Friday release would give the new songs two extra days to make it in the real-time top 10. But then, of course, the rest of their countdown covering the past seven days would now be two days behind Radio 1 (and, as ever, not official!).

 

Personally, I'm not too bothered that the chart show is moving to Friday, although it'll be much less possible for me to listen live anymore which is sad. As an avid Jameela fan I'm glad this is happening after she left as the host, because otherwise I would have been much more upset about not being able to tune in! I'm almost glad she stepped down now :o

What about that one week where we have the last Sunday release dates before the Friday releases begin? That would probably affect the chart horribly.