Err well anyone over 18 pays taxes so everyone wills pay for them.

 

On Pops point about Corbyns view of brexit it prob actually helped labour win ALOT of seats throughout England last night.

 

On the DUP - I doubt any deal would have much of an effect on their NI position!

Oh get in the sea!

 

It was a fully costed manifesto

 

I know how much a Rolls Royce would cost, but that doesn't mean I could afford one...

That point means nothing?!? Some older voters cannot afford a rolls Royce either though.

Oh get in the sea!

 

It was a fully costed manifesto

 

Exactly.

 

As the Scottish would say, he needs ta gerrt to farrwk.

DUP: well, they hold the strings now, really. One word of warning. Remember what happened to the Libdems when they got involved in having to pass unpopular Tory policies?

 

As with Northern Irish politics in general, they exist in a bit of a BUBBLE. They'll probably not really suffer because of this at all, people don't really vote DUP based on anything the DUP actually do, more just the fact they are the main Unionist option here. And those who are likely to be put off by this probably already know what a disgusting, bigoted stack of rancid corpses they all are anyway.

And if we're going to take pot shots at an age group, the working age population pays for the pensions and health care of the old. You can cut this anyway you want.

 

We all pay in our fair share and we end up with a functioning and healthy set of public services that improve our economy and productivity. What about that do the Tories fear so much?

Exactly.

 

As the Scottish would say, he needs ta gerrt to farrwk.

*Get tae f***

I know how much a Rolls Royce would cost, but that doesn't mean I could afford one...

 

Labour's costed manifesto is part of the reason they did so well. Sure, quite a bit of it may be wrong as pointed out by various agencies/companies. But the Tory manifesto gave hardly any substance to be scrutinised. If the Tory government came with at least a half costed manifesto, with reasonable figures on the winter pay threshold for pensioners and on their social care policies, they may have been able to hold on to a majority. Pretty sure the Tories lost some of the older vote because of that (my Grandad switched from UKIP to Labour as opposed to Conservative - he was a lifetime conservative voter before his UKIP vote).

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What can also be read into the result is that Labour's policies were far more popular with younger voters, than with those who'd actually end up having to pay for them - can't imagine why... :rolleyes:

 

LOL. Young people, the future and current tax payers for the rest of their lives, and you say they won't be paying for them. Tory voters: retired pensioners who pay for nothing much tax-wise. Oh you do live in a fantasy world sometimes... :lol:

As with Northern Irish politics in general, they exist in a bit of a BUBBLE. They'll probably not really suffer because of this at all, people don't really vote DUP based on anything the DUP actually do, more just the fact they are the main Unionist option here. And those who are likely to be put off by this probably already know what a disgusting, bigoted stack of rancid corpses they all are anyway.

 

Exactly my thoughts - I can't see the uk media being anywhere near as harsh with their unsavoury links in comparison to Corbyns views on the Irish question!

LOL. Young people, the future and current tax payers for the rest of their lives, and you say they won't be paying for them. Tory voters: retired pensioners who pay for nothing much tax-wise. Oh you do live in a fantasy world sometimes... :lol:

 

But don't forget that it is older voters (not just pensioners) whose taxes have been paying for NHS, education, etc for decades... ;)

Survation:

 

LAB: 45

CON: 39

LD: 7

UKIP: 3

But don't forget that it is older voters (not just pensioners) whose taxes have been paying for NHS, education, etc for decades... ;)

That's the way the deal works. As a very broad generalisation, you pay for it while you are in work and you use it in childhood and after you retire.

Survation:

 

LAB: 45

CON: 39

LD: 7

UKIP: 3

 

Immediate post-election opinion polls are about the most pointless exercises imaginable. :rolleyes:

Immediate post-election opinion polls are about the most pointless exercises imaginable. :rolleyes:

Someone obviously disagrees or they wouldn't have paid for it :lol: Obviously it is a pretty meaningless exercise even if there is another election within months but it does seem to illustrate just what a shambles May has created.

Immediate post-election opinion polls are about the most pointless exercises imaginable. :rolleyes:

 

A bit like spending £130 million to hold a snap general election with the intention of strengthening your majority, and then losing the slim majority you had in the first place.

Theresa May's honeymoon period is well and truly over...

 

That is some f***ing plummet in the space of 3 weeks.

Such strength, such stability

So what % are Tories on now?

 

You see Qassandra, Adeian?? I TOLD you that the reason the media and the ELITE attacked Corbyn and belittled our momentum so much is because he is emminently electable.