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Who ahould be the leader of the Labour Party? 49 members have voted

  1. 1. Who should it be?

    • Andy Burnham
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    • Yvette Cooper
      12
    • Liz Kendall
      7
    • Jeremy Corbyn
      16
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He'll probably keep virtually everyone from Ed's front bench who are willing to serve, an then give everything else to Diane Abbott.
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Lucky thing he didn't think bringing back elections for the Shadow Cabinet would be needed, then. Who needs democracy if it means you end up arguing the live long day about policies, eh? Or having to back down over some issues. Averted a lot of potential embarrassment there, phew!

 

I really do see storms ahead when he hasn't a heavy mob to send in, and is using the "persuasive" approach to get MP's on board. Maybe ol' Dennis can do it if Jeremy makes sure he gets to keep his fave seat in the house. He doesn't mince his words, and comes from my neck of the woods (more or less) where plain-speaking is the order of the day.

 

I will also laugh my tits off when he gets his first bunch of MP's voting against his policies, what goes around comes around - you can't complain about others doing what you've made a career out of it, especially if they are just as convinced they are right as he was. The whole point about teamwork is to show a united front for the good of the party and country. That may prove evasive....

Apparently Rosie Winterton is staying as Chief Whip. Probably in a very different sort of role.

And it begins.

 

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And with the news that Corbyn won't be talking to the media for the foreseeable apart from Radio 1 Newsbeat, we've essentially got a shrug of the shoulders as a rebuttal. This is going to be a fun decade.

And with the news that Corbyn won't be talking to the media for the foreseeable apart from Radio 1 Newsbeat, we've essentially got a shrug of the shoulders as a rebuttal. This is going to be a fun decade.

 

Eh? Shurley shome mishtake?! Trying to brainwa...I mean persuade future voters (target audience 11 to 17 year-olds, I think that's correct) and not talk to the grown-up's who actually vote..?

 

The words "electoral, like, sounds and suicide" spring to mind!

 

Must be joking....

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Nice to see Corbyn only insisting on taking on the tough interviews then. I'm sure they'll grill him on the important questions, like who his favourite member of The Saturdays is.

 

I'm now really tempted to sign up to the Conservative Party to try and muster up grassroots support for Jacob Rees-Mogg to run for leader in 2020. That would be some battle.

It'll be interesting to see how Sturgeon plays it.

She's already gone with 'We welcome Jeremy's anti-austerity but Labour are divided and as such won't be an effective alternative to the Tories, therefore still vote SNP/independence'. It's ALMOST as if they aren't our allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She's already gone with 'We welcome Jeremy's anti-austerity but Labour are divided and as such won't be an effective alternative to the Tories, therefore still vote SNP/independence'. It's ALMOST as if they aren't our allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scotland next year will be a massive test for everyone except for Ruth Davidson, who is presumably quite optimistic.

I'm looking forward to seeing who will populate Corbyn's Cabinet. I imagine he'll fill it with future thinking young whippersnappers like Gerald Kauffman, Dennis Skinner and David Winnick.

 

Well Kauffman is from the right of the party. There are a number of newer MPs from the 2010/15 intake who are more to the left as the membership is more left wing now people like Lisa Nandy and then others like Ian Lavery and a on Trickett.

She's already gone with 'We welcome Jeremy's anti-austerity but Labour are divided and as such won't be an effective alternative to the Tories, therefore still vote SNP/independence'. It's ALMOST as if they aren't our allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

precious. they'll be criticising them for being too left-wing for Scotland next, guaranteed, cos there is no logic in that attitude whatsoever - except that they know Scottish Independence hopes will be over. Difficult to slag off a party that has similar goals, bar one. Oops!

 

 

As for the future? Well, this is a not unconvincing glimpse of things to come:

 

http://www.vincecable.org/

 

 

Scotland next year will be a massive test for everyone except for Ruth Davidson, who is presumably quite optimistic.

I don't think the SNP have given their voters many reasons to switch back to Labour, regardless of what Labour are offering.

May will be interesting for Labour as Dugdale and Corbyn don't exactly agree on huge amounts. A huge criticism of Scottish Labour has been that it's just a branch office. Will be interesting to see if they work together to solve that or if we'll end up in a situation whereby we have a bit of a war on going between the two (which just feeds into the hands of the SNP even more)

 

To be quite frank, I don't think theres much Labour can do between now and May to stop the landslide. There's too much lost trust to win back, it's not just Labour supporters who've switched, and as Harve said it's not as if the SNP have given them any reason to switch back. They may have costed independence on a world of $150,000 a barrel oil prices but they have proven to be competent in government. Plus R NICOLA has a ridiculously high approval rating.

Yeah I agree with you. If there was more uneasiness about the SNP then Corbyn's election would've made next May really interesting.
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Shadow Cabinet announcements starting to come through. John McDonnell shadow chancellor, action man lookalike Andy Burnham as shadow Home Secretary, and as if by magic, Hilary Benn will be shadow Foreign Secretary. Already there's been a minor kerfuffle on Twitter about all the top jobs being rather blokey.

If Corbyn becomes PM (yes, I know), he will be the oldest person ever to gain the office for the first time.

 

It's rather depressing that the new Shadow Home Secretary is someone who loyally voted for all Labour's illiberal policies when they were in government.

I thought Burnham might get Home. That's one of the best decisions Corbyn's made. Most are unwise, bizarre or both.
I thought Burnham might get Home. That's one of the best decisions Corbyn's made. Most are unwise, bizarre or both.

Really? I assume Burnham will strongly defend the Human Rights Act. However, will he oppose the snooper's charter with any credibility? How strongly will he oppose any changes to Freedom of Information?

John McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor has at a stroke immediately tripled the Conservatives' majority. The DUP and UUP (who would probably already be uneasy at Corbyn) will literally never work with a party deputised by a man who has said the following:

 

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It makes no sense at all. I presume Corbyn wants to succeed. He's throwing away literally anything that's giving him the chance to do so at will - boycotting any media appearances and passing up the chance at actually defining himself, pissing off the few MPs willing to serve him at will with a Blair-esque reshuffle, and depriving himself of the chance to score easy defeats of the government. It's stunning in terms of how little strategy there seems to be behind it all.

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