Another problem with the LDs positioning on Brexit is the hypocrisy that they oppose another referendum on Scottish independence only for Brexit!?

The biased disgusting one party state media id constantly on the attack. Constant brainwashing.

 

And they basically did win outright last time. The vile disco citizens party was buoyed by Brexshit. Without that, it woulf have been destroyed.

 

Change the record, FFS.

 

Soon people will be complaining you're boring them even more than me over Brexit... ;)

Another problem with the LDs positioning on Brexit is the hypocrisy that they oppose another referendum on Scottish independence only for Brexit!?

There is a difference between maintaining the status quo (Scotland as part of the UK) and a major constitutional change (leaving the EU). If we do leave, my own view is that Scotland should be allowed another referendum as there would have been a major change since the last one. Similarly, there will have been a major change since the EU referendum - either an actual deal rather than an ill-defined concept or a recognition of the consequences of leaving without a deal.

Change the record, FFS.

 

Soon people will be complaining you're boring them even more than me over Brexit... ;)

 

He desperately want to be poster of the week so is whoring all over the forum. :nono:

Change the record, FFS.

 

Soon people will be complaining you're boring them even more than me over Brexit... ;)

 

Comments on the BBTory deflecting from Bojo the Bloat being torpeoed in a hospital? The establishment protects the establishment.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/s...xit-is-arrogant

 

The Greens are annoyed at the stance too.

It's no different from Tories anf Brexshit. You can interpret a 50 50 split referendum based on lies and univorns however you want! If it's enough for a hard brexshit, it's enough for revoke and hard remain.

Exactly so the arguement is that the LDs have moved to the extreme position the tories are in the opposite direction and have abandoned the middle ground.

 

Even the Greens as above aren't happy so are you a yellow Tory now Algernon? 😝

It's no different from Tories anf Brexshit. You can interpret a 50 50 split referendum based on lies and univorns however you want! If it's enough for a hard brexshit, it's enough for revoke and hard remain.

 

WTF is a 'univorn'? :unsure:

Edited September 20, 20195 yr by vidcapper

Another problem with the LDs positioning on Brexit is the hypocrisy that they oppose another referendum on Scottish independence only for Brexit!?

Democracy ended in 2014 for Scotland as far as Unionists are concerned. Have you seen her try and justify her stance under light light light questioning? It was excruciating.

 

There is a difference between maintaining the status quo (Scotland as part of the UK) and a major constitutional change (leaving the EU). If we do leave, my own view is that Scotland should be allowed another referendum as there would have been a major change since the last one. Similarly, there will have been a major change since the EU referendum - either an actual deal rather than an ill-defined concept or a recognition of the consequences of leaving without a deal.

Allowed?

 

If there’s a referendum or not that’s for the people of Scotland to decide via a Holyrood election, not for England to “allow”. In 2016 the people did decide at Holyrood to support parties that are for indyref2. That mandate from the Scottish people is only thing that matters. Hardly a “union of equals” if we need permission to ask to leave it. Bar is set so much higher for Scotland than any of England’s other colonial properties. Wonder why that would be? *looks knowingly in the direction of Aberdeen*

If there’s a referendum or not that’s for the people of Scotland to decide via a Holyrood election, not for England to “allow”. In 2016 the people did decide at Holyrood to support parties that are for indyref2. That mandate from the Scottish people is only thing that matters. Hardly a “union of equals” if we need permission to ask to leave it. Bar is set so much higher for Scotland than any of England’s other colonial properties. Wonder why that would be? *looks knowingly in the direction of Aberdeen*

 

I can't believe some people claim Scots have a chip on their shoulders... :teresa:

 

Hardly a chip the Union has always been an unequal relationship!

Well maybe don't ignore them all the time, say it's a union of equal, promote people who say the Scottish should never be pm to PM, int he same way GBrown was promoted (and the rscist twat screamed and wailed about that, presumably because he was Scottish), and force thrm out based on a split nation split decision referendum?

Hardly a chip the Union has always been an unequal relationship!

 

Would it be any more equal if 5.5 million Scots carried the same weight in parliament as 55m English?

 

Scots carry a weight at least proportionate to their numbers - that they still demand more is where the 'chip' is.

Edited September 21, 20195 yr by vidcapper

So let's just end this unequal relationship then!

So let's just end this unequal relationship then!

 

I have no problem with Scottish independence, but I think it naive for people to simultaneously claim that UK independence from the EU will damage the UK, while Scottish independence will magically make the country a utopia...

I can't believe some people claim Scots have a chip on their shoulders... :teresa:

Get in the sea

Heidi Allen has FINALLY joined *.*

Okay but why did she take so long

Just be glad she came through in the end x