It's not like Gaga has ZERO streaming, it's currently #178 on Spotify

Edited December 6, 20168 yr by SKOB

No but Nathan Sykes didn't have zero either and only got to #29(?) despite being top 10 on iTunes all week.

This is what really frustrates me about the charts at the moment. It's like there's a clear division of music tastes between the iTunes crowd and the Spotify crowd. There's never consistency and songs that do well on streaming generally get a bigger result on the official charts but not the other way around.

 

Simply put, the system is broken and unsurprisingly nobody knows how to fix it.

Or COULD IT BE that the iTunes audience is so much smaller than the streaming audience so that more obscure songs can make top ten

Edited December 6, 20168 yr by SKOB

Yeah, if the threshold for a Spotify top 10 was about 1500 streams (like the iTunes top 10 threshold) things'd be a hell of a lot different.

This is what really frustrates me about the charts at the moment. It's like there's a clear division of music tastes between the iTunes crowd and the Spotify crowd. There's never consistency and songs that do well on streaming generally get a bigger result on the official charts but not the other way around.

 

Simply put, the system is broken and unsurprisingly nobody knows how to fix it.

 

Is that the case, or is it just that you can't get anywhere on Spotify without being on the curated playlists?

Is that the case, or is it just that you can't get anywhere on Spotify without being on the curated playlists?

Both.

 

People who like Robbie Williams are more likely to buy his single from iTunes than stream it on Spotify as his fanbase are generally older.

 

Same with people who like the new Lady Gaga single as it's more adult contemporary and doesn't appeal much to younger listeners.

 

It's undeniable though that being playlisted on Spotify is essential for a big hit these days.

96 & 132. One More Sleep - Leona Lewis

 

It's doing so much better this year.

Enraged to see Louisa out of the top 10 again.

96 & 132. One More Sleep - Leona Lewis

 

It's doing so much better this year.

 

:wub:

 

As radio don't have SO MUCH Cowell backlash to worry aboot now in supporting her a little.

Has there ever been a Christmas rate on BJ before? (sorry off-topic)

Has there ever been a Christmas rate on BJ before? (sorry off-topic)

yeah there was... in the lounge last year!

yeah there was... in the lounge last year!

 

Oh :lol: Thanks. I must've missed it.

You can also submit your top 10 Xmas songs using the link here :magic:

Or COULD IT BE that the iTunes audience is so much smaller than the streaming audience so that more obscure songs can make top ten

 

Thats why I would like soundcloud plays to count for the chart, that would really boost more obscure songs which would be good.

 

You can also submit your top 10 Xmas songs using the link here :magic:

 

Thanks! I rarely check that forum. :lol:

Regarding the Spotify/iTunes balance, it reminds me of the very early paid download days (2004-05) where there was a clear divide as to what sold well on physical singles and what did on downloads. Older fanbase acts (Erasure/Bon Jovi/Depeche Mode/New Order etc) were shifting tons on CD and getting some of the biggest hits of their entire career with tracks barely anyone remembers now in comparison to their 80s/early 90s heyday, and given the collectability of the CD single in comparison to a digital file they're going to sell way more on the older format.

 

Similarly some harder dance acts did much better physically than on download - who's going to want to buy a lossy AAC file when you can grab a HQ version on CD or vinyl? I have a memory that DJ Tiesto's 'Adagio for Strings' wasn't available on download at all initially, which might go to explain its odd chart run - only a #37 peak (astonishingly low for what was a massive club anthem of the time) but hung around the lower reaches of the chart for ages afterwards. I didn't go anywhere near iTunes for dance tracks until they increased the bitrate in 2009, sticking to CD singles until then with downloads only for the odd pop or rock track.

 

Going even further back to the early 1990s, there was almost certainly a divide between which artists sold more on vinyl and more on the new-fangled CD and cassette singles. Part of the reason the era has so many re-issued singles charting so high - other than being used in commercials - was because it was everyone's first chance to own copies of the songs on CD, meaning they could finally bin their knackered old record player...

85. J. Cole - False Prophets

93. Elbow - Magnificent (She Says)

Rockabye only 27% ahead now!

Yeah, it's quite funny that, generally speaking, 10 years ago older consumers were buying CD singles and younger consumers were downloading on iTunes, and now the older consumers are downloading on iTunes and the younger ones are streaming everything :lol: