Yeah, Trump, he's sane.

 

I wonder if the Republicants will suddenly see a sense of urgency to start impeachment proceedings as they face bombs on US territory as Trump's final last desperate action to divert attention from his allegedly treacherous actions now that tweeting and lying doesn't work anymore to hide his forthcoming confirmations of guilt...

Trump won't do a thing unless North Korea fires first. It's just talk from both sides.

Trump won't do a thing unless North Korea fires first. It's just talk from both sides.

 

The US would like nothing better than an excuse to finally deal with North Korea!

"Dealing" with them may unfortunately involve having to explain why there is a smouldering pile of ash where Seoul used to be.

"Dealing" with them may unfortunately involve having to explain why there is a smouldering pile of ash where Seoul used to be.

 

Are you saying that Trump thinks Seoul is in North Korea, rather than South?

Are you saying that Trump thinks Seoul is in North Korea, rather than South?

Not what I meant, but I wouldn't put it past him.

 

If there is any perceived threat to the North, it will put Seoul in very grave danger. Either by nuclear or by conventional means.

The bigger issue is that the reason why North Korea has been able to get away with things for so long is that it has the backing of China, so if America was to attack North Korea, then there is the real issue that it could actually kick off a global war. The key to resolving North Korea is to cool ties between the two nations, to the point where China is no longer willing to protect North Korea, so Mr Kim can be overthrown and Korean reunification is possible. I do not think that Mr Trump has the diplomatic nous to do so.

The bigger issue is that the reason why North Korea has been able to get away with things for so long is that it has the backing of China, so if America was to attack North Korea, then there is the real issue that it could actually kick off a global war. The key to resolving North Korea is to cool ties between the two nations, to the point where China is no longer willing to protect North Korea, so Mr Kim can be overthrown and Korean reunification is possible. I do not think that Mr Trump has the diplomatic nous to do so.

Yep. China is definitely getting more tired of North Korea, and will continue to do so the more they start to looking like the might actually attack someone. Like you say, that requires the US to look like they're trying to maintain order and talk them down. That... doesn't seem to be the strategy for the current regime.

The bigger issue is that the reason why North Korea has been able to get away with things for so long is that it has the backing of China, so if America was to attack North Korea, then there is the real issue that it could actually kick off a global war. The key to resolving North Korea is to cool ties between the two nations, to the point where China is no longer willing to protect North Korea, so Mr Kim can be overthrown and Korean reunification is possible. I do not think that Mr Trump has the diplomatic nous to do so.

 

yes, wars get started over the stupidest thing: man shot on a bridge. a dumbass president trying to finish off something his smarter dad backed out of. withdrawing a warship from protecting islands half a world away. sticking nuclear weapons on an island (near-miss that one, happy ending for an actual potential nuclear war).

 

That's just recent examples...

 

2 complete self-obssessed morons could quite easily drag everyone else into their own evil misery.

Are you saying that Trump thinks Seoul is in North Korea, rather than South?

As far as we know, no country has developed a nuclear weapon that respects national boundaries.

Seoul and Incheon are rather close to the border so would be easily reachable targets for attacks from NK and in the line of friendly fire from the US attempting to attack NK

As far as we know, no country has developed a nuclear weapon that respects national boundaries.

 

Totally. And that would mean fall-out on NK from SK detonations, and China and Japan from either countries. So, insane leaders apart, no-one would be in favour of any escalation. 2 fat blokes who have never served in the forces and have delusions of grandeur because they know they are not in any way brave, smart and manly (just get minions to do their very dirty work) posturing at one another is 2 fat blokes needing a personal slapping down from more sane people.

Trump's lies have possibly hit another high (or low depending on how you look at it). Earlier this week he interrupted his holiday to address a rally. He then tweeted a photograph of a large crowd and boasted about how popular his rally had been. Just one minor problem. Have a quick look on Google Earth at the area where the rally took place and it will soon become apparent that the buildings in the photograph are nowhere to be seen. The photograph is of a completely different crowd in a completely different part of the country. Why do so many Americans still think this idiot is trustworthy?

Cos they are exactly the same as he is... except not an ageing spoilt rich boy.

 

That or he has mastered subliminal hypnotism via twitter.

 

I can't think of any other reason :(

That's before you even consider the content of the speech, coz there was some SELECTIVE AF editing of his post-Charlottesville statement

I can understand why some people worshipped Thatcher. I loathed the woman but she had a clear agenda and, generally, didn't tell blatant lies. That made it harder to argue against her although, believe me, I did so at every opportunity, using facts as much as possible. She was a true believer in the "trickle down theory". Like communism, it sounds perfectly plausible but human nature gets in the way so it doesn't work. Trying to convince true believers - in the trickle down theory or communism - that it doesn't work is another matter.

 

Trump is something different altogether. He constantly says things that are easily demonstrated to be untrue or contradict something he said just days (or even hours) earlier. So mush of what he says can be debunked very easily but his cheerleaders are just blind to reality.

Thatcher had strong cabinet members who believed in what she was trying to do and weren't afraid to argue their case if they disagreed, like Keith Joseph, Willie Whitelaw and the late Ian Gow. They kept her in check.

 

Trump seems to be surrounded by sycophants, scared to open their mouths in case he goes into one of his petty strop and fires them.

Bumper day for Trump related news today it seems... all of these stories breaking in just the last couple of hours just to remind us how horrible a person he is in case anyone's forgotten already since the Charlottesville response / every previous day of his presidency:

 

- Trump has pardoned Sheriff Joe Arpaio who was convicted of criminal contempt after illegally targeting Latinos

- Trump has signed a ban on transgender people serving in the military (is this literally the 50s?)

- Sebastian Gorka, an advisor who has links with a literal Neo-Nazi organisation in Hungary, has resigned - at least that's one piece of good news?

 

All of this happening just as a massive hurricane is about to hit Texas. wew lad

I wanna feel sympathetic bc this is about to reach Katrina levels, but then again... Texas voted for Trump... so natural selection I guess

Trump has essentially overturned the legislature who are trying to protect the Constitution with Joe Racist, and if they can't find any way to overturn or prosecute Trump (who appears willing to pardon anyone doing his bidding, regardless of the consequences to the Constitution), the WH is in serious crisis.

 

Meanwhile, the Republicans continue to support Trump in order to pursue their own agendas which look increasingly Russian-backed as evidence trickles out about individuals. The USA is very much on the brink of having to make a choice about their own government and what to do when it refuses to protect the documents designed to protect the Nation from this very problem. German media are seeing Trump as a fascist, and if anyone should know one when they see one.....

 

The transgender ban can be repealed by a subsequent President fairly easily, so that very wrong issue can be sorted. The problems above are much more devastating to the USA and it's future.

 

Trump meanwhile, having slagged off Obama for everything under the sun, including his response to natural disasters, is buggering off to another golfing holiday saying "Good luck" immediately after a 17-day golfing holiday. The Texas brass, who voted against Government finance for a previous Hurricane disaster not in Texas (so caring of them), are now demanding Texas get financial support from the same. Hypocrites much. Good luck getting the fat man off the golf course.....