Not following US politics *too* closely until we're right at election time but, I....I think I want someone else to win?

 

 

Not a fan of President Trump? Blimey even I didn't think I'd be typing those words just before the 2016 election.

Not a fan of President Trump? Blimey even I didn't think I'd be typing those words just before the 2016 election.

 

BTW, I love those Youtube videos where Ben Shapiro demolishes 'snowflake' arguments with ease...

Looks like Biden's going to run. If he gets the nomination, and he's polling up to 10% ahead of the others, I think he could well beat Trump. He'll give him a good run for his money anyway.

Ideally, the candidate won't be in their late seventies.

 

But I suppose that is asking a lot.

 

 

Did anyone catch any of the CNN Town Halls?

 

Thoughts?

No, but I'd support the gay Mayor - even if he was trump level stupid (he's not) it'd be worth it just to see the look on homophobic Pence's face when he wins and Trump finds the enduring popularity of his black American predecessor trumps his, his popular vote was less than a woman, and he got beaten by a gay man. Totally worth it watching his face and excuses and subsequent convictions for corruption in office.

Buttigieg is fine, Warren is sounding a lot better. To be honest you’d get the same reaction from Trump/Pence if he’s beaten by anyone who isnt a straight white man.

 

Just as long as it isn’t Biden, that would absolutely be a step backwards. His candidacy has been announced btw and he’s gone straight in with the big corporate endorsements.

Buttigieg is fine, Warren is sounding a lot better. To be honest you’d get the same reaction from Trump/Pence if he’s beaten by anyone who isnt a straight white man.

 

Just as long as it isn’t Biden, that would absolutely be a step backwards. His candidacy has been announced btw and he’s gone straight in with the big corporate endorsements.

 

 

I actually think Biden will get the Democratic nomination. Whether he can beat Trump is another matter. Could be close.

Sadly I think it's quite likely Trump would beat Biden if he had the nomination so I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case.

In 2019, Biden is essentially what a Republican used to be. No thanks.

 

So impressed with Warren so far — the only one who seems to have constant policy ideas and a plan for everything. It's refreshing to see a politician actually getting excited about change. Of course, she would be polling much better if she were a man.

 

I was really really hoping that Biden would end up just deciding not to run especially with the recent resurgence in news about his inappropriate behaviour around women. Sadly I think he's probably going to win the nomination and we'll end up with either Trump winning again or Biden narrowly pulling it out in a race that's far closer than it has any right to be, before being roundly defeated in 2024. Basically Hillary 2.0.

 

Hoping for Sanders or Warren to pull it out for sanity (or, as Americans put it, "the far left socialist commies") to prevail of course. I guess Pete Buttigieg would at least be better than Biden as well. It's very interesting that a previously fairly obscure mayor is being pushed so hard though.

Sadly I think it's quite likely Trump would beat Biden if he had the nomination so I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case.

 

 

I'm a huge Trump fan but am hoping Biden somehow doesn't get the nomination as I think he has a good chance of beating Trump. I honestly do.

Edited May 1, 20196 yr by Common Sense

New Quinnipiac poll out today, obviously long time to go but doesn't look good for Trump

 

When asked would they vote to re-elect Trump, 54% said they will definitely vote against him, with only 31% saying they will vote for him

 

another interesting question about the Dem contenders, people were asked how much attention they were paying to the campaigns

 

of those that said they were paying alot of attention Biden gets 42% compared to just 8% for Sanders

 

of those that said they were paying little or no attention to the campaigns Sanders gets 28% compared to 23% for Biden

 

so that suggests problems for Sanders as the campaign ramps up if he is doing so badly with people that are following the news

 

I'm a huge Trump fan.

 

I never would have guessed.

 

Are you a fan of his plans to get his minature dinosaur hands chunks of our health care system?

 

 

I never would have guessed.

 

Are you a fan of his plans to get his minature dinosaur hands chunks of our health care system?

 

 

No that won't happen. The NHS is safe with the Tories.

No that won't happen. The NHS is safe with the Tories.

Ah, this is obviously some strange usage of the word 'safe' that I wasn't previously aware of.

 

No that won't happen. The NHS is safe with the Tories.

 

You know, I still can't work out if your a troll, trying ing to wind everybody up or a naive, workshy, gullible racist old fool.

 

Bit of both eh?

Edited June 6, 20196 yr by mald487

keep to the opinions on policies and facts, not insults on people. Intolerance solves nothing, it just creates division, hurt, and war and adds fuel to the fires.

First set of Democratic debates have concluded. Highlights from what I've caught:

 

- Warren doing very well in the first half, coming out strongly for Medicare for All

 

- Jay Inslee naming Donald Trump as the biggest threat to America, getting the biggest cheer of the first night. Other candidates named Russia, China, nuclear weapons and climate change

 

- Tim Ryan - 'When we left the Taliban alone they started flying planes into their buildings', up against anti-war Tulsi Gabbard, who quickly corrected him.

 

- Castro performing pretty well for someone who hasn't really been talked about before

 

~ night 2, in which I actually watched the full second hour~

 

- Kamala Harris did great in the second debate I think, challenging Biden on race relations, and generally sounding great in ALL her speaking. Has a great plan for gun control she committed to also.

 

- online people I follow seem very enthused about Yang, I like his UBI idea but he isn't making a huge impact, not given a chance to speak. Neither is Williamson but at least she's trying to butt in and sounds decent for an outsider.

 

- Bernie is sounding a little aged, he and Biden are both getting calls to pass the torch, though his ideas are still sounding as great as ever, great closing statement in particular. Biden sounds completely uninspiring. Can't wait to see articles trying to make out that he wasn't that bad, he's done awfully.

 

- Buttigieg is... eh not bad. Doing more than some people but he also sounds up against it.

 

I guess some might drop out after a couple debates, particularly the 5 of the top 25 that didn't make these debates, there's more here than the Republicans in 2016, then we didn't get anyone drop out until September 2015 but some of the completely anonymous ones may go tonight or after the July debate.

 

But otherwise, I guess the drama race has really started now. I'm not 100% in favour of any candidate right now, but at the moment it's more like anyone but Biden (and a few of the more right ones like Delaney and Klobuchar).

From reading around the Net, mostly US sites, it seems the general consensus is that if it's Biden then he should choose Warren or Harris as his VP pick. I'm personally dreading next November as I think my hero Trump could well be beaten by Biden, especially if he has a younger female VP candidate. :( Early polling shows Trump really trailing Biden in a head to head. Yes, early days yet and the campaign proper hasn't even begun and Trump will be a formidable opponent and campaigner.The thinking is that they may not want to risk another woman after Hillary lost to Trump.