I agree. Her album are out of the charts after one week, takes part to C-projects, and she’s booked in festivals that work on nostalgia.

 

But you know what? Us fans we’re ok, at the moment we’re waiting for her 9th album she’s working on with people like LP Giobbi (cool female DJ you should check). I understand it must be difficult given the fact there’s never gonna be another Spice Girls album, ever.

 

Just a suggestion: whenever I need some Spice, I just go back to their amazing catalogue. The three albums we have are Amazing with no fillers.

 

PS: before jumping to conclusion, also be aware that not everyone has the same level of English - expressing our point of views as a translation from our native language doesn’t always go as planned. So, no diss and no shade in my words ;-)

 

Im guilty of this and Im sorry!

 

 

:lol:

of the festivals Mel C does with 2 of Attomic kitten

She performed in countless festivals alongside "credible" and current names this summer, but of course you chose to focus on ONE festival in Norway (of which she is the main headliner) in order to try to prove your point. That says a lot about you.

 

Oh, and let's not pretend the Spice Girls themselves are not a nostalgia act. You even tried to downplay the success of Kylie and Steps, although you wish the Spice Girls were in their shoes and following the same chart tactics.

 

P.S.

Spice 25, like many other albums nowadays, spent 1 week in the chart. That's how fanbase-driven releases work these days, now more than ever, but I'm sure you're already aware of this fact.

Edited August 23, 20222 yr by Voodoo

Just stop, stop trying to make solo Mel C credible. She was at some festival near me this year (Wollaton) and had a half an hour slot as basically the warm up act in the day. The credible (Michael Jackson would be shaking) artist you speak of that topped the bill as the big night act was Anne Marie!!!!!!!!!

 

All their solo careers are low rent rubbish these days. Just because we sentimentally love them doesn't change that. Perspective is a great thing.

Hmm my perspective is that I don't care too deeply about who is deemed credible amongst the masses. If a lot of the public don't care for her, I don't mind, it doesn't mean they're right for that.

 

Melanie C hustles and is constantly booked and busy, her career must be enviable to countless other one-time pop group members. I don't think that her career on the whole is low rent, particularly not recently. I do think she has credibility in the industry and amongst her peers, she's a respected name.

Hmm my perspective is that I don't care too deeply about who is deemed credible amongst the masses. If a lot of the public don't care for her, I don't mind, it doesn't mean they're right for that.

 

Melanie C hustles and is constantly booked and busy, her career must be enviable to countless other one-time pop group members. I don't think that her career on the whole is low rent, particularly not recently. I do think she has credibility in the industry and amongst her peers, she's a respected name.

 

Oh for sure. I think when it comes to other solo endeavours of pop groups, Mel C has done pretty well all things considered. Whilst I wouldnt consider her career 'low rent' I do think that the general quality isn't the best, even if it did pick up with her last album.

 

But she does get gigs and is generally well thought off which is great!

Just stop, stop trying to make solo Mel C credible. She was at some festival near me this year (Wollaton) and had a half an hour slot as basically the warm up act in the day. The credible (Michael Jackson would be shaking) artist you speak of that topped the bill as the big night act was Anne Marie!!!!!!!!!

 

All their solo careers are low rent rubbish these days. Just because we sentimentally love them doesn't change that. Perspective is a great thing.

 

 

Stop trying to make Mel C happen. She's never going to happen!!

Stop trying to make Mel C Solo Spice happen. She's It's never going to happen!!

 

Fixed it for you my hun! Mel C isnt even the worst of them all, she is actually one of the good ones lol

Edited August 24, 20222 yr by Mr.X

Complaining about Melanie C being the stumbling block for group things that never happened is funny to me.

 

Fans acting like Melanie C's solo career stopped a 4th group album from happening is ridiculous. Once releasing new music wasn't financially viable anymore, the other 4 girls quit. Melanie C has continued to release solo albums regardless if they are commercially successful.

Complaining about Melanie C being the stumbling block for group things that never happened is funny to me.

 

Fans acting like Melanie C's solo career stopped a 4th group album from happening is ridiculous. Once releasing new music wasn't financially viable anymore, the other 4 girls quit. Melanie C has continued to release solo albums regardless if they are commercially successful.

 

This. She likes making music, full stop.

 

As for the others. Since 4 girls is not a problem, why didn’t they produce something as a 4 piece without Melanie? If they really wanted it to happen, it was just about working hard, hitting the studio, and maybe them sharing the outcome with Mel to see if there was a chance to have her on board at the end.

 

Headlines and Song for Her are the best example they lost some spark when it comes to crafting their masterpieces. I mean, these are the girls that wrote Wannabe and Viva Forever. You don’t release something unless it’s of the same quality. I understand the reluctance of some of them when it comes to releasing something new.

 

This is not solo music / projects where they can do whatever they want and nobody other than fans notice that. The exposure of new music as the Spice Girls is so risky.

This is such a strange discussion because Melanie HERSELF has said many times over the years (inc as early as this year!) she:

 

- Didnt want to be a Spice Girl in 1999/2000 (she said it retrospectively but still) and was one of the reasons the group ended in 2000

- Didnt want a reunion with the Spice Girls at all prior to 2007

- Didnt want to make music or tour with the Spice Girls from 2008-2018 because it was '5 or nothing'

- Is too scared of making new music BECAUSE she thinks it wont live up to the 'old catalogue' (yawn!)

 

Of course, a girl is allowed to change her mind and she has, but lets not pretend that along with Geri and Victoria over the years, Melanie has been as much a stumbling block to the group's reunions possibilities.

 

This is not shade towards Mel C, and to the fans who bash other fans when they point this out, please get some perspective. You can both be supportive of Mel and her choices whilst also acknowlege that the above seriously impacted on the ability of the group to not just make new music but also tour...

- Didnt want to make music or tour with the Spice Girls from 2008-2018 because it was '5 or nothing'

Not true!

 

She was up for reuniting for Live Aid in 2005.

She was up for recording the GH's two new tracks.

She wasn't the reason the reunion tour was cut short in 2008.

She was up for reuniting for the Olympics in 2012.

She was up for touring in 2014. The tour was almost announced, as Sammy mentioned.

 

She backed out from the failed GEM project in 2016 due to the girls' insistence to cast a Posh replacement. And it was for the better, because in the end we got a stadium tour in 2019, which was bigger & better than everything they had done before. It beat everyone's expectations.

I've always kinda wondered if the real reason some of them have been hesitant about recording new music...is what it could do to the price of their offers. New material (no matter how good it is) will obviously sell a lot less and chart lower than the group in their prime. Could certain members think that could effect how much they'd be offered for a tour/Las Vegas residency/etc? I don't know. I'm just not totally buying the idea they don't think they can hack it creatively. Do we really know they can't do it? Do they really know they can't do it? In just the past few years, the two Emma originals we got, the Melanie C album, and Geri's unreleased material all show they still have an ability to construct a solid song.

 

Song For Her is used as too much of an example around here as to why it can't work. It is a demo we were never supposed to hear for a TV show that never got picked up. How harsh should we really be to this song? Headlines and Voodoo were recorded with the group split across the world...with a producer who was just trying to recapture the sound of the previous decade. The truth is...the group hasn't been unified in a musical effort since...the initial recordings for Forever in 1999?

I think most of agree that they *can* do it, but in order to do so they'd need to actually spend time in the studio to figure out their dynamic as a four piece and as women in their 40s and 50s. And in all honesty... I don't think they want to do that effort. And that's what Headlines, Voodoo and Song For Her shows. They're not horrendous, they're just all very lazy. And arguably, recording something solo is different from recording with a group because there are more people who you need to vibe and compromise with.

I think most of agree that they *can* do it, but in order to do so they'd need to actually spend time in the studio to figure out their dynamic as a four piece and as women in their 40s and 50s. And in all honesty... I don't think they want to do that effort. And that's what Headlines, Voodoo and Song For Her shows. They're not horrendous, they're just all very lazy. And arguably, recording something solo is different from recording with a group because there are more people who you need to vibe and compromise with.

 

 

I think you hit the nail on the head there.

 

As stated above Emma, Geri and Melanie have released some cracking songs over the last few years (or been leaked) and quite a few could be put together to make a stellar Spice Girls album.

A little off topic but I wondered if other music sites like music magpie were legit cd stores or are they just second hand copy sites? Thank you

I've always kinda wondered if the real reason some of them have been hesitant about recording new music...is what it could do to the price of their offers. New material (no matter how good it is) will obviously sell a lot less and chart lower than the group in their prime. Could certain members think that could effect how much they'd be offered for a tour/Las Vegas residency/etc? I don't know. I'm just not totally buying the idea they don't think they can hack it creatively. Do we really know they can't do it? Do they really know they can't do it? In just the past few years, the two Emma originals we got, the Melanie C album, and Geri's unreleased material all show they still have an ability to construct a solid song.

 

Song For Her is used as too much of an example around here as to why it can't work. It is a demo we were never supposed to hear for a TV show that never got picked up. How harsh should we really be to this song? Headlines and Voodoo were recorded with the group split across the world...with a producer who was just trying to recapture the sound of the previous decade. The truth is...the group hasn't been unified in a musical effort since...the initial recordings for Forever in 1999?

 

I think this is right, for sure. They havent been 'a group' in the studio since 1999 which is just WILD for such a group that show so much unity and their music was always a collective effort.

 

On top of that, the very fact any music they have released since 1999 hasnt been as successful both critically or sales wise as the 1996-1999 period and that definitely has an effect on thier thinking.

 

Forever being such a flop at the time really hit them. Same with Headlines and the reaction to Song For Her. So they are probably scared the same will happen again. But they need to understand that this really is a reflection of their own methods. The music started to flop when they started to be disjointed as a group, recorded music separately (which shows!) and dont bother promoting.

Forever achieving such low sales had a huge impact on the group and Headlines missing the Top 10 would have added even further doubt.

Edited August 27, 20222 yr by pippa

Forever achieving such low sales had a huge impact on the group and Headlines missing the Top 10 would have added even further doubt.

 

I do agree. Of course, it’s a bit sad, but you know, people move on. There’s never gonna be any new music other than solo efforts. And each of the girls have their own life, passions, and space. They’re individuals who want to express themselves as such. Melanie C with music-related projects, Victoria with fashion, Emma being a business woman, Mel B with TV (and yes, she’s great doing that, one of the most memorable judges ever), and Geri being chameleonic.

 

No other band in the world has produced such distinctive personalities - and even if I do agree that there are some big flops that have happened between them - why don’t we start as fans to acknowledge the fact the after all this time they still can make headlines as a group and individually?

Personally, I do not give a shit about them 'being in headlines' or whatever. As a fan, I want them to be brave and explore what brough them together in the first place: music!