And you certainly did make a simple choice....

 

I meant *easy*, rather than 'unwise' as you seem to be hinting. ;)

Edited April 28, 20187 yr by vidcapper

Andrea loathesome praises swiss border free movement as an example for ireland. Inadvertantly suggesting the uk joins schengan it appears....

 

Another clueless thick tory. They genuinely are stupid. Every tweet tweeted shows how dumb they are.

Yo,

 

I've not been following Brexit much since December, and I don't think much has actually been happening until recent weeks. Following the customs union/partnership woes, as well as the Brexit-y council election results, I've been back on it this weekend.

 

This is an excellent article which explains the situation we find ourselves in. I really hope MPs read this or something similar before crucial House of Commons votes in the next few weeks as I fear that, almost two years after the referendum, there's *still* a fundamental lack of understanding regarding the state of play amongst many of our politicians, media and electorate...

interesting article. The UK still hasnt a clue what it wants, in either party or in the country at large, still split and one can see why the rest of the EU is frustrated by the ongoing schizophrenia. End of the day the EU calls the shots, always has done from before the referendum when it comes to stating what the UK can and can't do.

 

Either we comply with what they want or there is no deal at all.

 

Complying is the least-damaging result. Total Hard Brexit is the most-damaging as we lose our main market overnight with nothing to replace it and years of negotiating ahead (or more likely knee-jerk acceptance of anything any other country offers as we are totally stuffed and have no other options but to accept rubbish deals)

interesting article. The UK still hasnt a clue what it wants, in either party or in the country at large, still split and one can see why the rest of the EU is frustrated by the ongoing schizophrenia. End of the day the EU calls the shots, always has done from before the referendum when it comes to stating what the UK can and can't do.

 

Either we comply with what they want or there is no deal at all.

 

That sounds exactly like what we were stuck with before 23/6/16... :rolleyes:

 

 

 

That sounds exactly like what we were stuck with before 23/6/16... :rolleyes:

 

and what we will be stuck with forever more with every country in the world. It's called "Trading".

and what we will be stuck with forever more with every country in the world. It's called "Trading".

 

You do remember it's not the trading part of the EU I have a problem with, but the political interference?

Far better than Tory Murdoch rule!

Far better than Tory Murdoch rule!

 

It's unclear which post you are replying to, here? :unsure:

You do remember it's not the trading part of the EU I have a problem with, but the political interference?

Even though you still haven't been able to provide a single example of the UK government being forced to introduce laws against its will.

It's unclear which post you are replying to, here? :unsure:

 

Yours, fearmongering against the EU based on some magical interference that doesn't exist

Yous, fearmongering against the EU based on some magical interference that doesn't exist

 

So all those Directives they passed don't exist either? :rolleyes:

Like that pesky working time directive that stops companies working us into an early grave. Those pesky Brussels bureaucrats

You mean OUR RIGHTS??

 

Who gives a shit where we get our rights from as long as we have them? Friggin Cthulu or Cloverfield could rise from the seas and demand we have those rights from our government. Doesn't make them any less important.

 

The billionaire press hate these rights and attack them, but that is fat cat propaganda polluting your mind

Like that pesky working time directive that stops companies working us into an early grave. Those pesky Brussels bureaucrats

 

You do realise that if you don't like your working conditions, you can look for another job with more favourable ones? Despite what Queef would have us believe, we are no longer serfs bound to one master! :rolleyes:

Edited May 7, 20187 yr by vidcapper

and screw all the people who end up replacing one's unusually upwardly mobile career trajectory in places with poor working conditions, right? Companies need regulation to keep them from enforcing modern slavery.

 

If I were you, I would really begin questioning your cultish hatred of the EU at the point you're saying that it's fine to let companies mistreat their workers as long as some of them can move jobs to the nice altruistic (and mythical) company who doesn't need laws to be decent.

and screw all the people who end up replacing one's unusually upwardly mobile career trajectory in places with poor working conditions, right? Companies need regulation to keep them from enforcing modern slavery.

 

How did we get from EU Directives to 'slavery'? :huh:

 

Also, who on earth would allow what *might* happen to your successors in a job you quit, to tailor your own career path?

 

If I were you, I would really begin questioning your cultish hatred of the EU at the point you're saying that it's fine to let companies mistreat their workers as long as some of them can move jobs to the nice altruistic (and mythical) company who doesn't need laws to be decent.

 

A point of order - I never claimed it was OK for companies to mistreat their workers. And since the WTD will be incorporated into English law when we Leave, using it to attack my position is simply a red herring.

 

You're taking it from the individual point of view, I'm going from the societal point of view. We, as a society, do not want poor working conditions anywhere.

 

So why bring it up as something you have an issue with by playing down its necessity because someone can move jobs?

You're taking it from the individual point of view, I'm going from the societal point of view. We, as a society, do not want poor working conditions anywhere.

 

So why bring it up as something you have an issue with by playing down its necessity because someone can move jobs?

 

Boom!

 

Reece Mogg et all would have us back in workhouses and the plutocrats would bring back modern day slavery conditions without these directives. They are out of control. Just look at amazon WITH these directives already in place!! Thank you EU for protecting our rights from millionaire Tory neoliberal plutocrats

You're taking it from the individual point of view, I'm going from the societal point of view. We, as a society, do not want poor working conditions anywhere.

 

So why bring it up as something you have an issue with by playing down its necessity because someone can move jobs?

 

It was Silas who brought up the WTD, not I.