February 18, 20196 yr ive also signed up*.* i would love to stand in either my home or uni constituency
February 18, 20196 yr It's started off well, Angela Smith on BBC2 at lunchtime (and she's already had to apologise) QW3OMN2a5OY
February 18, 20196 yr Labour MP Rupa Huq said: “They claim their new party is anti-racist and modern yet in the same breath describe black, Asian and minority ethnic people as having a ‘funny tinge’. This is, at best, the casual racism of the 1970s that I thought we’d long left behind. But it will strike many as an appalling, racist comment. Is the Independent Group going to investigate?” Also: Big row brewing as The Independent Group signals it could let sex harassment accused MPs John Woodcock and Ivan Lewis sit with them. https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/30-mps...dependent-group They should have just joined the Tories tbh.
February 18, 20196 yr I doubt I'll be a huge fan of their general policies but it's good that some in Labour are taking a stand over Brexit and the bullying/intimidation going on in the party. Self serving traitors imo. The moment you use 'traitors', people automatically stop registering with your argument.
February 18, 20196 yr The problem that the new Independent Grouping will have, and a problem that any "centrist" party will face, is that they will be facing an attack on two fronts, both from the right, and its associated press, as well as from the left, and its associated groupings as well. As such, any weaknesses and missteps will be poured over with a fine tooth comb, and amplified to a much greater extent than if it were from just one party, which is another one of the reasons why I don't think this grouping will be the long-term prospect they are hoping for. But all I can say is I'm really looking forward to the next by-election.
February 19, 20196 yr Author I've signed up to support them and ready to be selected as a candidate in the June election x What June election - do you know something even the PM doesn't? :rolleyes:
February 19, 20196 yr Labour MP Rupa Huq said: “They claim their new party is anti-racist and modern yet in the same breath describe black, Asian and minority ethnic people as having a ‘funny tinge’. This is, at best, the casual racism of the 1970s that I thought we’d long left behind. But it will strike many as an appalling, racist comment. Is the Independent Group going to investigate?” Also: Big row brewing as The Independent Group signals it could let sex harassment accused MPs John Woodcock and Ivan Lewis sit with them. https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/30-mps...dependent-group They should have just joined the Tories tbh. yet I see a woman saying white women have a hard time, and non-white women have an even harder time then stumbling over her words while arguing against bigotry. Bloody women trying to stand up for women and racism! Why can't they just shut up and let the men who are much better at using words tell them what to think?
February 19, 20196 yr What June election - do you know something even the PM doesn't? :rolleyes: Given the co-ordinated attacks on Corbyn in the press over the last couple weeks, a June (or May) election would not be a surprise. Of course, there also remains the possibility of a European Parliament election.
February 19, 20196 yr I also think there’s local elections coming up in GB (I assume - they’re taking place in Northern Ireland, and before you ask no, I am not standing, although a former advisor to a local MLA has been encouraging me to do so).
February 19, 20196 yr I also think there’s local elections coming up in GB (I assume - they’re taking place in Northern Ireland, and before you ask no, I am not standing, although a former advisor to a local MLA has been encouraging me to do so). That’s why I added the possibility of a May election on the same day as the locals.
February 19, 20196 yr What June election - do you know something even the PM doesn't? :rolleyes: Every eventuality right now feels like it will end in a vote of no confidence in March. It's really difficult to see how we can avoid another imminent election with the level of chaos currently in the Commons.
February 19, 20196 yr An 8th Labour MP, Joan Ryan, has quit the party and is joining the indepenant group - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47300832 Interesting to see the new independent group seems to be gaining a little momentum. Perhaps more Labour MPs and even some Tory MPs will join in the coming weeks.
February 19, 20196 yr I think there will be more drip-drip defections over the next few days to keep the momentum growing and the story continually at the top of the news agenda. It would not surprise me if there were more defections on Wednesday, Thursday & Friday, with Thursday seeing the first Conservative switch (as that is when the story will need "novelty" to justify it staying near the top of the headlines).
February 20, 20196 yr Newsnight reporting that Anna Soubry, Heidi Allen and Sarah Wollaston are resigning tomorrow.
February 20, 20196 yr Author Every eventuality right now feels like it will end in a vote of no confidence in March. It's really difficult to see how we can avoid another imminent election with the level of chaos currently in the Commons. The last such vote didn't work, why would another?
February 20, 20196 yr Newsnight reporting that Anna Soubry, Heidi Allen and Sarah Wollaston are resigning tomorrow. Hope so. The sheer amount of death threats, anger, aggression that Anna Soubry has had from extremists since the referendum would make it lovely to behold some chickens coming home to roost in the Tory Party too. An intolerant party deserves what it gets. The main difference with the 80's is it was just the one party bitterly infighting (though without the personal social media attacks you get these days), these days it's both of them manipulating and putting their own interests first rather than the nation's.
February 20, 20196 yr Author Hope so. The sheer amount of death threats, anger, aggression that Anna Soubry has had from extremists since the referendum would make it lovely to behold some chickens coming home to roost in the Tory Party too. An intolerant party deserves what it gets. The main difference with the 80's is it was just the one party bitterly infighting (though without the personal social media attacks you get these days), these days it's both of them manipulating and putting their own interests first rather than the nation's. Sounds like yet another reason to change to STV, so that a range of opinions within each party would be *essential* to maximise their allocatable votes - not to mention discouraging extremists from infiltrating mainstream parties.
February 20, 20196 yr Sarah Wollaston has lost her position as the Tory MP for whom I have the most respect. She has left the party to join the Independent Group along with two other Tories, Heidi Allen and Anna Soubry.
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