but if I buy an album for 9.99 and play it 5000 times in a week on my mp3 player it still counts for 1 sale...... not fair and everyone knows it..... needs to be some kind of weighting added to the formula.

Nobody, anywhere, can stream something enough for it to account to 1 sale in any week.

but if I buy an album for 9.99 and play it 5000 times in a week on my mp3 player it still counts for 1 sale...... not fair and everyone knows it..... needs to be some kind of weighting added to the formula.

Oh lordy

If you played an album 5000 times in one week I'd hazard a guess that you didn't listen to it properly :heehee:

Nobody, anywhere, can stream something enough for it to account to 1 sale in any week.

 

 

you could stream 30 seconds of 5 songs easily and often. and album tracks shouldn't really be allowed on official playlists either. its too easy for passive sales.

If you played an album 5000 times in one week I'd hazard a guess that you didn't listen to it properly :heehee:

 

 

:P

you could stream 30 seconds of 5 songs easily and often. and album tracks shouldn't really be allowed on official playlists either. its too easy for passive sales.

For a start, there are daily streaming caps so you'd only be able to contribute the capped amount per day.

 

And what you're explaining tbh is no different to fans going out and buying X amount of copies of songs/albums and then never/rarely playing them just cos they wanted them for their collection/to boost their chart position.

 

Why don't you take your own advice and start doing this for Kylie? :lol:

you could stream 30 seconds of 5 songs easily and often. and album tracks shouldn't really be allowed on official playlists either. its too easy for passive sales.

If you stream each song on a 12-track album 10 times (the maximum), it would account for 120 streams for the album in one day. Streaming figures are divided by 1000, so you'd contribute 0.12 sales per day. 0.84 sales in a week = less than a full album purchase. That's before you take into account that the top 2 most-streamed songs are downweighted to the average of the other tracks.

 

And on the last point, the same could be said of any song. There is no correlation that this applies only to non-singles.

That's an 'exception' because their logic is that because the album is allowed in the album chart (for whatever reason), its songs are treated as if they're by the same artist.

 

But they aren't credited that way. You cant say that is an 'exception' to the rule and not have people confused as to the rule.

 

The OCC are making it up as they go along. I have no problem with streaming, I'm fully in favour of it, but they cant just exclude songs from the charts because it suits them.

But they aren't credited that way. You cant say that is an 'exception' to the rule and not have people confused as to the rule.

 

The OCC are making it up as they go along. I have no problem with streaming, I'm fully in favour of it, but they cant just exclude songs from the charts because it suits them.

They aren't excluding songs from the chart because it suits them. In fact, they're actually being quite consistent by excluding the Greatest Showman songs. That doesn't mean it makes sense, but it's still consistent. Ultimately, The Greatest Showman should really be charting in the compilations chart.

but if I buy an album for 9.99 and play it 5000 times in a week on my mp3 player it still counts for 1 sale...... not fair and everyone knows it..... needs to be some kind of weighting added to the formula.

 

How about those who buy pointless cassettes and never listen to them, should they be not counted or down weighted?

 

If Kylie was a streaming monster, then would you still be arguing about it Smiley?

They aren't excluding songs from the chart because it suits them. In fact, they're actually being quite consistent by excluding the Greatest Showman songs. That doesn't mean it makes sense, but it's still consistent. Ultimately, The Greatest Showman should really be charting in the compilations chart.

 

 

No they are being the opposite of consistent, if they rule is 3 songs credited to 1 artists as lead allowed and TGS tracks are credited as sung by different leads in most of the songs then they are doing as they like as all tracks should have charted.

 

 

No they are being the opposite of consistent, if they rule is 3 songs credited to 1 artists as lead allowed and TGS tracks are credited as sung by different leads in most of the songs then they are doing as they like as all tracks should have charted.

The thing is though, they've treated TGS as an artist album (for whatever reason). That's why it's in the main album chart. It's also why the same limit wasn't applied to the Black Panther soundtrack. Therefore it *is* consistent, it's just silly and they should perhaps apply common sense to the rule instead.

But they aren't credited that way. You cant say that is an 'exception' to the rule and not have people confused as to the rule.

 

The OCC are making it up as they go along. I have no problem with streaming, I'm fully in favour of it, but they cant just exclude songs from the charts because it suits them.

 

Fair point, and I do agree with you, but that's the only case in which it hasn't been completely straightforward, so it's just odd that we still get people asking 'isn't the rule per album?' literally every single time they do stick to their rules. It's not like this exact discussion about the TGS album tracks doesn't come up every couple of weeks since the album came out either.

They aren't excluding songs from the chart because it suits them. In fact, they're actually being quite consistent by excluding the Greatest Showman songs. That doesn't mean it makes sense, but it's still consistent. Ultimately, The Greatest Showman should really be charting in the compilations chart.

 

Yes it should. its silly and yet it is taking all the attention and because artists sales are so low its staying

For a start, there are daily streaming caps so you'd only be able to contribute the capped amount per day.

 

And what you're explaining tbh is no different to fans going out and buying X amount of copies of songs/albums and then never/rarely playing them just cos they wanted them for their collection/to boost their chart position.

 

Why don't you take your own advice and start doing this for Kylie? :lol:

 

 

its the playlists that are my bug bear. if someone likes a song so much then they are quite capable of adding to playlist etc and then counting as sales..... passive playlists and a few people choosing what goes on playlists or even record companies paying to add songs to playlists is all a bit false

Nothing yet on the mids.

 

Really hoping Greatest Showman holds off J Cole and Nines

 

Really want Kylie to get another Top 40 but its looking doubtful but there is hope if she is above new Liam Payne song.

you could stream 30 seconds of 5 songs easily and often. and album tracks shouldn't really be allowed on official playlists either. its too easy for passive sales.

 

Sorry no, I don't agree with this. The lines between singles and album tracks are blurring with so many instant grats/promo singles/buzz singles etc, if a track from an album is popular then it deserves to do well

Nothing yet on the mids.

 

Really hoping Greatest Showman holds off J Cole and Nines

 

Really want Kylie to get another Top 40 but its looking doubtful but there is hope if she is above new Liam Payne song.

 

 

she is 40th today with 5.1k sales. not going to do it. 4th May maybe the week though.

she is 40th today with 5.1k sales. not going to do it. 4th May maybe the week though.

 

Thanks