Edit: not worth arguing. Carry on getting upset over pathetic things

"getting upset over pathetic things". Say that to a person of colour next time they get offended by a song using the N word. :rolleyes:

 

The F word to gay people is used in exactly the same way as the N word is used for people of colour. It's an offensive word no matter the context.

Isn't the whole 'people are so sensitive these days' thing kind of just picking and choosing, pretending that things that are entirely tame by modern standards weren't seen as morally repugnant by these same people who continue to use slurs that seemed acceptable at the time?

Apologies if my views have come across poorly but I just think we are too easily offended. I will admit that I did not read the thread and seeing as how the word has affected some I can see how people feel.

Apologies if my views have come across poorly but I just think we are too easily offended. I will admit that I did not read the thread and seeing as how the word has affected some I can see how people feel.

 

The thing is, it's easy for you to say we're too easily offended but as a straight man, you have never had that word used against you so have no idea the baggage that comes with the word for people in the LGBTQ+.

The thing is, it's easy for you to say we're too easily offended but as a straight man, you have never had that word used against you so have no idea the baggage that comes with the word for people in the LGBTQ+.

This. It's not for a straight guy to say a gay person is easily offended by discriminatory slurs. Similarly, I would never dream of telling a black person not to be offended by the n-word...

How do you people know I'm straight? Intrigued.

How do you people know I'm straight? Intrigued.

 

It's usually the people that have never faced discrimination that throw 'snowflake' around whenever they're slightly inconvenienced. The irony.

Oh I have faced discrimination big time, you have no idea.

I think people are too sensitive these days, I'm gay and I don't have a problem with hearing FONY including that f-word, imo I think it's better to pick your battles and getting riled over a stupid word in a song is definitely not one of them.

 

Also I don't think it's correct to compare the f-word slur to the n-word.

 

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Also I don't think it's correct to compare the f-word slur to the n-word.

 

Why?

 

They’re both swear words with a history of being used to bully and belittle minorities.

How do you people know I'm straight? Intrigued.

 

I sort of just assumed that it was probable when you said "MY children certainly won't be raised this way".

I sort of just assumed that it was probable when you said "MY children certainly won't be raised this way".

 

Does not mean I'm straight loo

Does not mean I'm straight loo

 

No, and that's why I said "probable".

Fair enough

Why?

 

They’re both swear words with a history of being used to bully and belittle minorities.

 

 

Well for a start, that n-word came about the same time as slavery. The two words are not comparable.

Well for a start, that n-word came about the same time as slavery. The two words are not comparable.

 

Regardless of when they came about, they both have the intent of dehumanising, belittling and exerting power over minorities and are still used by people today. The origins are obviously different but the intent and impact are generally similar.

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I think people are too sensitive these days, I'm gay and I don't have a problem with hearing FONY including that f-word, imo I think it's better to pick your battles and getting riled over a stupid word in a song is definitely not one of them.

 

Also I don't think it's correct to compare the f-word slur to the n-word.

 

This is my take you put it perfectly.

Well for a start, that n-word came about the same time as slavery. The two words are not comparable.

 

I get that both words have different histories and the N word holds a lot of weight to it, but for the sake of this argument I think it’s an okay comparison as they’re both swear words used to target minorities.

 

Funnily enough a little while ago today a friend saw some debates about this and asked me if it was censored on radio because he thought it was and this was his response:

I think it’s a good example of how harmful it can be.

I find it amazing that this exact debate is had every single year and nothing ever changes :P

 

When they played the version without f*****, did they censor out just that word or the entire line/verse? We've started playing Christmas music on the radio at work and the entire second verse is completely skipped because of it. I'd be fine with or without that word as it personally doesn't bother me (I do see why it would bother others though rightfully) but the song gets butchered to the point it's barely worth playing at all

Regardless of when they came about, they both have the intent of dehumanising, belittling and exerting power over minorities and are still used by people today. The origins are obviously different but the intent and impact are generally similar.

It's all about context, if there is no genuine malicious or nasty intent behind the word then I personally don't have a problem with it. I think too often these days people are very quick to be offended or be offended on someone else's behalf, I don't like that.