Why does all the juicy politics stuff always happen on Tuesday, when I work a 29 hour day.

Corbyn is as good as AWOL right now

 

Meanwhile, Theresa is still in no. 10 rocking back and forth over her precious and refusing to do something constructive to find a consensus

 

Looks to me like May is more concerned about keeping the Tory party together over everything else. I mean she's apparently whipping her party to vote for an amendment they haven't even seen.

 

 

Not surprising when this entire three year farce has been about keeping the Tory party from splitting in half

The board's censorship system has been mostly unchanged for years prior to snowflake becoming a politicised insult, including this word. I happen to agree with this, it's not a classy word.

 

Our acceptance doesn't matter, so why not lay your cards on the table. We're not going to think less of you.

 

No, it isn't - but some works are used purely for emphasis, and if not directed at a specific individual, I don't see the problem.

 

iro the latter - I *have* laid my cards on the table, many times!

 

What a mess. It is almost unbelievable that a government would allow the effective economic suicide of a nation - and yet we sit by and allow it to happen.

 

Parliament has painted itself into a corner - either it takes a risky course, or it effectively abandons democracy by ignoring a referendum result. I consider the latter to be far more dangerous than the former.

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Parliament has painted itself into a corner - either it takes a risky course, or it effectively abandons democracy by ignoring a referendum result. I consider the latter to be far more dangerous than the former.

 

It's not ignoring a referendum result. It's taking off the table a threat to ruin the economy doing something that wasnt promised by any Brexiteer in 2016, in fact they all claimed it WOULDN'T happen, and it wasn't specifically mentioned on the ballot. The slim win by Leave was for A BREXIT not any specific kind of Brexit. Nothing being legislated on right now stops the former it just removes the totally-agreed-worst-case-scenario as it looms as a stupid default by extremists wanting to destroy jobs and lives so they all do nicely out of it.

Britain's best selling newspaper's headline today is "Don't Let Labour Kill Brexit", with a pic of Corbyn. The Sun's urging Labour MP's to not back Cooper's amendment which would give parliament the authority to force A50 to be revoked. It goes on to say that Brexit was what the people chose in a referendum so shouldn't be stopped by MP's. They are right. The Sun usually talks sense.

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The sun only ever talks out it’s arse.

 

Why are you avoiding my question from the other day Chris?

Yes Chris, I've noticed that whilst all of the points you've made in this thread have been addressed by other posters, you've avoided answering quite a few very valid uestions asked directly to you in this thread. I wonder why that might be? :lol:

 

It's not ignoring a referendum result. It's taking off the table a threat to ruin the economy doing something that wasnt promised by any Brexiteer in 2016, in fact they all claimed it WOULDN'T happen, and it wasn't specifically mentioned on the ballot. The slim win by Leave was for A BREXIT not any specific kind of Brexit. Nothing being legislated on right now stops the former it just removes the totally-agreed-worst-case-scenario as it looms as a stupid default by extremists wanting to destroy jobs and lives so they all do nicely out of it.

 

OK, but I still reject phrases like 'economic suicide'.

Britain's best selling newspaper's headline today is "Don't Let Labour Kill Brexit", with a pic of Corbyn. The Sun's urging Labour MP's to not back Cooper's amendment which would give parliament the authority to force A50 to be revoked. It goes on to say that Brexit was what the people chose in a referendum so shouldn't be stopped by MP's. They are right. The Sun usually talks sense.

The UK is a parliamentary democracy. That means Parliament is sovereign unless it legislates to the contrary. In the case of the 2016 referendum, parliament did NOT legislate to the contrary. That leaves MPs still bound by their code of conduct to act in the best interests of their constituents and the country as a whole. The Sun (owned by an economic migrant), as usual, is wrong.

OK, but I still reject phrases like 'economic suicide'.

All the forecasts say it would be a terrible idea. Just to pre-empt your oh-so-predictable reply, would you expect a Chancellor to start a Budget speech by saying he hadn’t bothered looking at any forecasts?

The UK is a parliamentary democracy. That means Parliament is sovereign unless it legislates to the contrary. In the case of the 2016 referendum, parliament did NOT legislate to the contrary. That leaves MPs still bound by their code of conduct to act in the best interests of their constituents and the country as a whole. The Sun (owned by an economic migrant), as usual, is wrong.

 

IMO parliament delegated the decision to the people - therefore they are bound by their code of conduct to follow the result of the referendum.

Any leader that does not act in the best interests of the people, even when the people disagree with them, is no leader. Parliament should do what they believe is best for the country, no matter what.

 

In any case, May announcing she's going to ask the EU to reopen negotiations, to waste more time when the EU tells her no again. I would say an extension is coming because god forbid this shitshow has an end (and no, I would not prefer no deal, you don't need to point that out).

Watching the debate on BBC Parliament and was watching Sky News before. Sounding like Cooper's delay amendment will fail and I for one hope it does. The PM spoke against it and IDS is right now. He says rather than delay, MP's need to all work together and find some kind of agreement before the end of March. They sure do. Delaying or revoking A50 is not the answer and the will of the people must be carried out.

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IMO parliament delegated the decision to the people - therefore they are bound by their code of conduct to follow the result of the referendum.

 

 

Yes they are and to ignore that referendum result would be very bad and dispespectful to everyone who voted OUT. Thank goodness our PM is determined to honour that result.

IMO parliament delegated the decision to the people - therefore they are bound by their code of conduct to follow the result of the referendum.

They can only do that by legislating to do so. Opinion doesn't come into it.

Any leader that does not act in the best interests of the people, even when the people disagree with them, is no leader. Parliament should do what they believe is best for the country, no matter what.

 

In any case, May announcing she's going to ask the EU to reopen negotiations, to waste more time when the EU tells her no again. I would say an extension is coming because god forbid this shitshow has an end (and no, I would not prefer no deal, you don't need to point that out).

 

 

It will have an end on 29th March. We don't need an extension. We can leave with NO DEAL.

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29 HOUR DAY.

 

 

LOL. :rofl: Are you Dianne Abbott in disguise? :D

 

 

Sorry Dianne, couldn't resist.

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They can only do that by legislating to do so. Opinion doesn't come into it.

 

And what else did they do with the legislation for the 2016 referendum?