If they're sour, they already have. :P

 

Seriously though, no-one *really* knows what'll happen post Mar 29th, and wild speculation is likely to be damaging in itself, so IMO the media should refrain from it.

its not the media, it's the supermarkets. You know, businesses and experts worried about profits and moaning customers. You're saying the media shouldn#t report news? OK, let's stop printing any of the rubbish arguments giving by all brexiteers then and stick with facts not speculation....

 

Fact: fresh food goes off quickly.

 

Fact: any delays that the government expects and has diverted staff to borders to try and cope with a Hard Brexit will mean fresh food goes off if there are delays. They must be expecting delays, as must the EU who have already taken on hundreds of extra staff (not just diverted them from actual other jobs that won't get done), and given a contract out to a brand new ship-less company for ferry work transporting vehicles and cargo aboard said ship that doesn;t exist till they rent one or buy one.

 

I'm filled with confidence based on evidence, but no if you say "it#s all just hype" then it must be so, cos youve been so spot on about everything so far.....

shortages of fresh fruit and veg will happen because they go off quickly, panic buying is irrelevant cos they'll still go off. I mean have you tried trying to freeze bananas and lettuce?! I know the ones I buy go off within days if they arent eaten, and they're FRESH.

 

I mean, Brexiteers trying to redefine scientific fact is HILARIOUS!

 

:lol: :lol:

its not the media, it's the supermarkets. You know, businesses and experts worried about profits and moaning customers. You're saying the media shouldn#t report news? OK, let's stop printing any of the rubbish arguments giving by all brexiteers then and stick with facts not speculation....

 

Fact: fresh food goes off quickly.

 

Fact: any delays that the government expects and has diverted staff to borders to try and cope with a Hard Brexit will mean fresh food goes off if there are delays. They must be expecting delays, as must the EU who have already taken on hundreds of extra staff (not just diverted them from actual other jobs that won't get done), and given a contract out to a brand new ship-less company for ferry work transporting vehicles and cargo aboard said ship that doesn;t exist till they rent one or buy one.

 

I'm filled with confidence based on evidence, but no if you say "it#s all just hype" then it must be so, cos youve been so spot on about everything so far.....

 

 

 

The thing is that no-one really knows what will happen if we crash out with no deal on March 29th so let's all cross our fingers that there's a deal passed. We do know however what would have happened if we'd stayed in the EU. More autocratic rule by Brussels and businesses buried in tons of silly EU laws and regulations and half of Europe arriving here to live. So I know which I'd take a chance on.

You seemed perfectly happy for the media to speculate about sunlit uplands before the referendum.

 

Well, they could hardly let Project Fear go unchallenged. ;)

 

Seriously though, they were based on us doing a deal with the EU, virtually no-one expected No Deal to seriously happen.

The thing is that no-one really knows what will happen if we crash out with no deal on March 29th so let's all cross our fingers that there's a deal passed. We do know however what would have happened if we'd stayed in the EU. More autocratic rule by Brussels and businesses buried in tons of silly EU laws and regulations and half of Europe arriving here to live. So I know which I'd take a chance on.

Silly EU laws such as? How is it autocratic when all laws have to be passed by the elected parliament?

Well, they could hardly let Project Fear go unchallenged. ;)

 

Seriously though, they were based on us doing a deal with the EU, virtually no-one expected No Deal to seriously happen.

That first comment must be one of the funniest things ever posted on Buzzjack.

 

As for the latter comment, nobody has yet come up with any vague idea of a plausible withdrawal deal that would have produced these sunlit uplands. All the promises were based on the ludicrous idea that we would hold all the cards in the negotiations.

Silly EU laws such as? How is it autocratic when all laws have to be passed by the elected parliament?

 

The Parliament in which we have less than 10% of the seats, so if they pass anything we are dead set against, tough sh1t?

 

That first comment must be one of the funniest things ever posted on Buzzjack.

 

And you claim I have no sense of humour...

The Parliament in which we have less than 10% of the seats, so if they pass anything we are dead set against, tough sh1t?

And you claim I have no sense of humour...

Brighton and Hove has only 0.5% of the House of Commons bush has to put up with laws opposed by our three MPs. The UK government can veto many proposals before they get as far as the parliament. Brighton and Hove has no such luxury.

From today's Independent.

 

 

Theresa May is considering a bid to win Labour MPs' support for her Brexit deal with a cash injection for areas that voted Leave at the 2016 referendum.

 

The proposal comes ahead of any second vote on the prime minister's deal and after Ms May secured parliamentary backing to seek alternatives to the Irish backstop.

 

A Downing Street source confirmed to The Independent the funds for Leave areas was a "possibility" but made clear it had not yet been agreed.

 

John Mann - the Labour MP for Bassetlaw - said: "Show us the money. A fund of sufficient size to transform our communities. Our areas voted Leave and it is time that we had the investment we need."

 

Mr Mann was one of 14 Labour MPs to vote against an amendment by his colleague Yvette Cooper on Tuesday which would have paved the way to delay Britain's exit from the EU by giving MPs the power to request an Article 50 extension.

 

I want closer checks on *people*, more so than goods. That way we can let in law-abiding immigrants, but tell the criminals to p1ss off.

We can do that literally right f***ing now by applying EU Law. As we have been telling you for the past three f***ing years

Ah but what if some people are stowing away amongst the bananas and pineapples? ;)

Wtf do you think we spend millions of pounds a year on f***ing fences at Calais for? Fun?

The Parliament in which we have less than 10% of the seats, so if they pass anything we are dead set against, tough sh1t?

And you claim I have no sense of humour...

Oh you have been told countless times how the EU works. Honestly go find someone else to spout the same shite over and over to

We can do that literally right f***ing now by applying EU Law. As we have been telling you for the past three f***ing years

 

 

Is there any need to use profanities? :rolleyes: Yes this is quite a heated subject and people have strong opinnions but you don't see me or Vid swearing. There's no need for it. :wacko: :P

Edited January 31, 20196 yr by Common Sense

The thing is that no-one really knows what will happen if we crash out with no deal on March 29th so let's all cross our fingers that there's a deal passed. We do know however what would have happened if we'd stayed in the EU. More autocratic rule by Brussels and businesses buried in tons of silly EU laws and regulations and half of Europe arriving here to live. So I know which I'd take a chance on.

 

We know what will happen on the 29th March is No Deal happens (and it will happen before then). All the big supermarkets and big FMCG companies have already spelled it out - there will be product shortages and price increases, and delays when crossing the border and in to the country. Brexit is not going to stop illegal immigrants coming in to the country.

 

Gosh does nobody remember the drama when KFC moved their logistics contract? It's gonna be something similar to that.

Is there any need to use profanities? :rolleyes: Yes this is quite a heated subject and people have strong opinnions but you don't see me or Vid swearing. There's no need for it. :wacko: :P

 

When you keep ignoring actual questions and points made, profanity can be explained away as frustration.

 

In fact, you’ve ignored the actual point here in order to take the moral high ground about swearing. You and Vidcapper have helped sell our futures down the river. The fact that you didn’t use naughty words whilst doing so doesn’t absolve your own immorality.

From today's Independent.

Theresa May is considering a bid to win Labour MPs' support for her Brexit deal with a cash injection for areas that voted Leave at the 2016 referendum.

 

The proposal comes ahead of any second vote on the prime minister's deal and after Ms May secured parliamentary backing to seek alternatives to the Irish backstop.

 

A Downing Street source confirmed to The Independent the funds for Leave areas was a "possibility" but made clear it had not yet been agreed.

 

John Mann - the Labour MP for Bassetlaw - said: "Show us the money. A fund of sufficient size to transform our communities. Our areas voted Leave and it is time that we had the investment we need."

 

Mr Mann was one of 14 Labour MPs to vote against an amendment by his colleague Yvette Cooper on Tuesday which would have paved the way to delay Britain's exit from the EU by giving MPs the power to request an Article 50 extension.

 

Buying votes didn;t work with the DUP, and there's no reason it'll work with ex-mining communities that have been ignored for 35 years. People voted Tory to get Brexit through, and voted Leave partly to give Cameron a black eye, as the face of Remain (I mean who wouldnt want to give him a metaphorical black eye!), but once it's done with one way or the other promises of cash won't change decades of bitterness at the Tories. My brother voted Brexit, but still hates Tories as an ex-miner and will continue to do so no matter what they try and sell 30 years too late.

We can do that literally right f***ing now by applying EU Law. As we have been telling you for the past three f***ing years

 

We *can*, but either we haven't actually been doing so, or we've been hopelessly incompetent at it. :(

 

In fact, you’ve ignored the actual point here in order to take the moral high ground about swearing. You and Vidcapper have helped sell our futures down the river. The fact that you didn’t use naughty words whilst doing so doesn’t absolve your own immorality.

 

Point of order - we are each only 0.00000575% responsible, yet because we are prepared to speak out & defend Brexit, we are treated as if we are 100% responsible. As for 'immoral' - perhaps we should have expected a Remainer to claim that voting is immoral, given their desire to do everything possible to circumvent a democratic vote... :rolleyes:

 

I mean, we can reduce your desires down to everything possible to ensure the country and its people are worse off with fewer rights but you'd claim that doesn't tell the whole story.

 

And while I do love circumventing democracy on the regular I think regardless, the time has passed and the incompetence of the people in charge of directing this farce shown up more than enough times that it is ridiculous how the option of cancelling it, or even attemping to extending it to get more time, is treated as not an option worth considering. That 52% of the voting population three years ago is going to look more and more unrepresentative as the years go by and it is foolish that our politicians are treating the discourse as us being shackled to it.

And while I do love circumventing democracy on the regular I think regardless, the time has passed and the incompetence of the people in charge of directing this farce shown up more than enough times that it is ridiculous how the option of cancelling it, or even attemping to extending it to get more time, is treated as not an option worth considering.

 

If you think that would be an acceptable option, then how about this scenario : The gov't loses a GE but cancels the result - surely you cannot think that would be acceptable? In 3rd world countries, actions like that have caused many civil wars...

 

Point of order - we are each only 0.00000575% responsible, yet because we are prepared to speak out & defend Brexit, we are treated as if we are 100% responsible.

 

Errr, surely if anything you're all collectively responsible?