We're just not tough enough with the EU. May let them walk all over her. It's time now that Boris tells them to F*** off on 31st October, keeps any money we still owe them and forges trade deals with the rest of the world. I'll repeat, China, India, Japan, Far East, Canada, Australia, US, South America. The world is our oyster! We don't need the EU. Our defence can come from the US too. It's time a British politician stood up to them. Farage sure would.

 

Sorry, but can you remind me why you think it’s so important for us to leave the EU even on No Deal? Without saying that Leave won, of course.

It's all just PR isn't it, we know exactly that the EU are not going to budge and Johnson will push for No Deal, but he won't be able to get it through to House. Which in turn will likely lead to a No Confidence Motion. Then Johnson will run his campaign on how good 'No Deal' is for the country, how we'll all lose our jobs and kill our econpmy for 10 years.

 

Problem we will have is all the planning for No Deal will be for 9-12 months. In this time I am sure there will be bumps, we will get through them, but it's all very short termism. Rumours Vauxhall will move their entire production to the EU is profitability falls.

 

Not rumours. PSA CEO (former Renault COO) is actively stating it to media as fact. Ellsmere Port only gets the contract if there’s a deal. Tarifs = goodbye contract. Profitability margin is too narrow and in a falling European Market that PSA are extremely heavily reliant on, they can’t sustain the loss making operation when there’s EU plants with capacity.

 

Luton should be nervous as f***. The vans they build are nothing but rebadged Renault’s. The second the contract with Renault expires the plant is gone. Will be cheaper to extend the Peugeot Van factories in France than refit Luton that won’t be profitable.

Looks like there could be a border poll in Scotland and Ireland soon.

Bring it on. Hyped for the Celtic alliance getting its own back on little England.

 

Yes, we are. And having lived outside the UK for a few months in a multicultural city, I can tell you from first hand experience it's not because we voted to leave and are still in the EU. It's because of how our government are handling negotiations and pushing for a 'no deal' with all of it's disastrous consequences. To quote a friend 'Sorry buddy, but the world is laughing at the UK right now and what it's about to do to itself'.

I lived in Berlin for 6 months last year. First sentence out my mouth was “I voted to stay. This shower of morons have nothing to do with me”

We're just not tough enough with the EU. May let them walk all over her. It's time now that Boris tells them to F*** off on 31st October, keeps any money we still owe them and forges trade deals with the rest of the world. I'll repeat, China, India, Japan, Far East, Canada, Australia, US, South America. The world is our oyster! We don't need the EU. Our defence can come from the US too. It's time a British politician stood up to them. Farage sure would.

The EU is abiding by its own rules and acting in the interests of its members. That's what it's for. Oh, and how do you think we should go about getting a trade agreement with the EU - an agreement we will need far more than they do - if we have told them to F off? You also fail to take into account that an increasing number of countries is joining regional trading blocs. We won't be trying to deals with individual countries, we will be a piddly little island negotiating with groups of countries.

 

Can you name a single country on Earth that prioritises trade with countries thousands of miles away and ignores a massive market on its doorstep? Of course you can't, because all countries know that would be mind-numbingly stupid.

Sorry, but can you remind me why you think it’s so important for us to leave the EU even on No Deal? Without saying that Leave won, of course.

 

 

Well if we don't leave on 31st Oct.then when will we? It just seems to be dragging on and on and on. Something has to give soon and either we leave or revoke A50 which will enrage millions of Brexiteers and lead to possible civil unrest.

Well if we don't leave on 31st Oct.then when will we? It just seems to be dragging on and on and on. Something has to give soon and either we leave or revoke A50 which will enrage millions of Brexiteers and lead to possible civil unrest.

 

You completely missed the point of my question. It wasn’t about why we need to get out in terms of ‘we voted leave’. It was asking why, referendum or no referendum, you’re so desperate to leave the EU that you’d happily say f*** off to any trade deals with them?

 

Repeat: I’m not looking for an answer that says we have to respect the referendum. Instead, what is so appalling about being in the EU, you’d sacrifice our trade deal?

Well if we don't leave on 31st Oct.then when will we? It just seems to be dragging on and on and on. Something has to give soon and either we leave or revoke A50 which will enrage millions of Brexiteers and lead to possible civil unrest.

If we leave without a deal, the consequences may well lead to civil unrest. It will be even worse if people finally see the extent to which the Leave campaign lied to them.

We're just not tough enough with the EU. May let them walk all over her. It's time now that Boris tells them to F*** off on 31st October, keeps any money we still owe them and forges trade deals with the rest of the world. I'll repeat, China, India, Japan, Far East, Canada, Australia, US, South America. The world is our oyster! We don't need the EU. Our defence can come from the US too. It's time a British politician stood up to them. Farage sure would.

Oh for f*** sake. Would you do us all a favour and read a f***ing book. Educate yourself for god sake it’s not as if you’ve got anything else to do all f***ing day.

 

The US are only interested if it is in their favour and f***s us over

Canada are barely interested and won’t give us as good terms as the EU

India won’t talk to us unless we severely loosen visa restrictions on Indian citizens to the point of freedom of movement

China won’t even play ball with the EU who are the worlds largest economy (until 31/10)

Japan aren’t interested and are already pivoting away from the UK

South America hates us

Various SEAsian countries won’t come near us without visa liberation and protection against China

Australia - see India

New Zealand - See india

 

It’s all a giant f***ing myth. What did Liam Fox do in 3 years? f*** all. Why? Because we have nothing of interest to anyone. We have no goods to sell. We are a serviced based economy and guess what isn’t included in trade deals. That’s right! Services!!! Do you know why our economy is so heavily biased towards services? Because thatcher shut all the industry down. We’re the services capital of Europe because of the free market. More Eurobond trading goes on in London than anywhere in the Eurozone. Without free movement of capital that trade literally vanishes at 23:00 on October 31st. Billions of pounds instantly wiped off our GDP

 

When will you get it? Even you’re not stupid enough to honestly believe the utter garbage you’re spewing. Not a word that comes out your mouth here is based on facts or reality. Get a f***ing grip of yourself for god sake. You’re actually embarrassing this country with your uneducated bullshit

No wonder I’m f***ing emigrating deal or no deal, Brexit or not on December 1st. The lunatics are running the asylum. Can only pray Scotland makes it out alive

Oh for f*** sake. Would you do us all a favour and read a f***ing book. Educate yourself for god sake it’s not as if you’ve got anything else to do all f***ing day.

 

The US are only interested if it is in their favour and f***s us over

Canada are barely interested and won’t give us as good terms as the EU

India won’t talk to us unless we severely loosen visa restrictions on Indian citizens to the point of freedom of movement

China won’t even play ball with the EU who are the worlds largest economy (until 31/10)

Japan aren’t interested and are already pivoting away from the UK

South America hates us

Various SEAsian countries won’t come near us without visa liberation and protection against China

Australia - see India

New Zealand - See india

 

It’s all a giant f***ing myth. What did Liam Fox do in 3 years? f*** all. Why? Because we have nothing of interest to anyone. We have no goods to sell. We are a serviced based economy and guess what isn’t included in trade deals. That’s right! Services!!! Do you know why our economy is so heavily biased towards services? Because thatcher shut all the industry down. We’re the services capital of Europe because of the free market. More Eurobond trading goes on in London than anywhere in the Eurozone. Without free movement of capital that trade literally vanishes at 23:00 on October 31st. Billions of pounds instantly wiped off our GDP

 

When will you get it? Even you’re not stupid enough to honestly believe the utter garbage you’re spewing. Not a word that comes out your mouth here is based on facts or reality. Get a f***ing grip of yourself for god sake. You’re actually embarrassing this country with your uneducated bullshit

 

Fantastic post! Totally wasted on Chris of course - but I really enjoyed it!

 

No wonder I’m f***ing emigrating deal or no deal, Brexit or not on December 1st. The lunatics are running the asylum. Can only pray Scotland makes it out alive

 

I emigrated at the end of February. No plans to go back.

I emigrated at the end of February. No plans to go back.

 

 

So what do you miss about the UK then?

I emigrated at the end of February. No plans to go back.

 

Where have you emigrated to? Sorry - I've been away from BJ for a long time and have only come back sporadically - so if you have posted it already - I'd have missed it!

Fantastic post! Totally wasted on Chris of course - but I really enjoyed it!

 

 

Don't know what he's on tonight but it's just a rant. :rolleyes:

Where have you emigrated to? Sorry - I've been away from BJ for a long time and have only come back sporadically - so if you have posted it already - I'd have missed it!

 

 

When I'm 66 I'm emigrating to the Philippines and can have my pension paid in to my bank there. Can ride a buffalo to plough the rice fields for a bit of extra dosh. :D

Edited July 29, 20195 yr by Trump2020

Don't know what he's on tonight but it's just a rant. :rolleyes:

There's more facts in that "rant" than in anything you've ever posted on buzzjack combined

Where have you emigrated to? Sorry - I've been away from BJ for a long time and have only come back sporadically - so if you have posted it already - I'd have missed it!

 

Iceland 🙂

Fantastic post! Totally wasted on Chris of course - but I really enjoyed it!

Thank you Kath!

 

I was sorry to read about your partner. I hope that you're keeping ok all things considered. We're always here if you need us or want to talk x

So what do you miss about the UK then?

 

Family, but theres Whatsaspp and Skype for that.

 

Nothing else.

When I'm 66 I'm emigrating to the Philippines and can have my pension paid in to my bank there. Can ride abuffalo to plough the rice fields for a bit of extra dosh. :D

 

So it's OK for you to be an immigrant then?

 

Just not when it's the other way around.

 

:lol:

 

Silly man

Edited July 29, 20195 yr by mald487

So it's OK for you to be an immigrant then?

 

Just not when it's the other way around.

 

 

I have nothing whatsoever against immigrants so long as they go straight to work and don't claim any benefits or council housing. We have Brazilians one side and they're very friendly and Romanians the other side.

Edited July 29, 20195 yr by Trump2020