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It's hard work being a Katy stan these days.

Now you know how Britney fans feel :D

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I had to suffer the tanking of the Witness era TOO, this isn’t a fresh feeling! It seems to have been a constant battle for the past 3 years :lol:

 

For someone whose management seemingly couldn’t get it wrong when it came to singles and promotion for a good 3 eras, they’ve really dropped the ball of recent. Granted, I love Bon Appetit more than anything of the last era so it’s hard to be impartial and see why that did so bad but... this is already not standing the test of time, 2 weeks on after they’d done so well building up good will towards her with Never Really Over and returns to her big chorus moments. FRUSTRATING.

Not doing any promo for NRO or even doing the smallest things like discounting the song in the UK were big mistakes too, I think. The song was holding up so so well and they kinda ignored it.
This was such a poor song to release. I've been a Katy stan since her first release and this really is a week single. The low chart positions are completely deserved. Let's hope her next release is a big improvement on Small Talk.
I had to suffer the tanking of the Witness era TOO, this isn’t a fresh feeling! It seems to have been a constant battle for the past 3 years :lol:

 

For someone whose management seemingly couldn’t get it wrong when it came to singles and promotion for a good 3 eras, they’ve really dropped the ball of recent. Granted, I love Bon Appetit more than anything of the last era so it’s hard to be impartial and see why that did so bad but... this is already not standing the test of time, 2 weeks on after they’d done so well building up good will towards her with Never Really Over and returns to her big chorus moments. FRUSTRATING.

 

Prism. They had no clue what to do with it after Dark Horse. They lost it after that

I mean, at least they got a solid era out of it! If a 4th single, well after the album comes out, doesn't smash, it's not the end of the world. This is a pre-album release that's tanking, completely different.
Not doing any promo for NRO or even doing the smallest things like discounting the song in the UK were big mistakes too, I think. The song was holding up so so well and they kinda ignored it.

 

This is legit my problem, they moved on from it far too quickly especially in the United States, it really could have been a top 10 hit. I think the best thing for them to do is move on from Small Talk because it’s even falling fast down TTH and I can’t see it recovering.

It’s climbed a bit today, any reason why?

 

Yeah it climbed 50 places cos of her Potty Jam I think. Same think happened briefly with NRO.

Is Potty Jam her only promo these days? :lol:

 

Imagine if she did real promo :lol:

I think Witness era pretty much killed her career and it will be tough to recover from that without a few strong singles. Small talk isn’t a great track. It’s fairly forgettable. Most successful artists have 2-3 big albums and then their career fades so Katy has done well to keep in the spot light.

^ I disagree. Small Talk is FANTASTIC!

 

Don't be too quick to write her off just yet. She needs to reinvent herself, in the same way GaGa has done since ArtFlop crashed & burned.

 

For starters, I think she should try her hand at acting.

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Despite the floppage I'm really liking Small Talk still. It's full of hooks, well-produced and builds towards the final chorus. I think the bathroom video really showed off the strength of the song when it was stripped down. Only thing is that it's not second single material and it needed to stand out more compared to the rest of the charts.

Putting so much effort on making Small Talk a hit while NRO was still doing very well, played on radio and streamed in good amounts is one of the most bizarre management choices I've seen recently.

 

She's not huge enough pop star to carry several hits at the same time.

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