Any case involving a judgment that is prepared to overturn an ECHR ruling would likely end up in the Supreme Court anyway.

Any case involving a judgment that is prepared to overturn an ECHR ruling would likely end up in the Supreme Court anyway.

 

 

I though he planned to get rid of that too.

I though he planned to get rid of that too.

The only European country not part of the ECHR (or the Council of Europe, which is the overseeing body) is Belarus, whose candidacy was suspended because of numerous human rights issues including use of the death penalty and not being a democracy, so I'm not sure if that's a club we want to join.

 

It's the political equivalent of withdrawing from the WTO, whose few non-members are limited to the famously open and economically thriving countries of Eritrea, Turkmenistan and North Korea.

Edited December 18, 20195 yr by Harve

No I mean I thought he wanted to get rid of the Supreme Court.

oops I mixed up the courts. this is why I shouldn’t reply straight after getting in and read articles properly!

 

No I mean I thought he wanted to get rid of the Supreme Court.

No, there’s no benefit from doing so. You always have a ‘highest’ court, it would just fall to the Court of Appeal. Same consequences but less opportunity to get the law right.

 

He may wish to politicise it by political appointments and, if so, that would be incredibly concerning.

Johnson wants the word Brexit banished after Jan 31st. Seems it's served it's purpose to win the election and now time to ditch it.

 

Downing Street will also refuse to refer to the UK-EU free trade agreement to be negotiated next year as a “deal”, arguing that the prime minister’s withdrawal agreement is the Brexit deal.

and do you believe them?

and do you believe them?

 

 

I think many of us will be calling it Brexit for years to come.

oops I mixed up the courts. this is why I shouldn’t reply straight after getting in and read articles properly!

No, there’s no benefit from doing so. You always have a ‘highest’ court, it would just fall to the Court of Appeal. Same consequences but less opportunity to get the law right.

 

He may wish to politicise it by political appointments and, if so, that would be incredibly concerning.

 

They'll try and change it because the ERG hate the Supreme Court following their support of Gina Millar during the last few years.

They'll try and change it because the ERG hate the Supreme Court following their support of Gina Millar during the last few years.

The Supreme Court supported the law, not an individual. That’s what it is for.

Anybody going to watch any of the Brexit debate today? We've been here before, twice at least. Boris will open at 10.30 and it will be closed by the Brexit secretary. All Tory MP's have been told to be there for the vote this afternoon so no sneaking off.

 

Wonder how Theresa May's feeling as it's kind of bitter-sweet for her. He's succeeding where she failed but am sure she'll be glad it's finally going through.

Edited December 20, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

Not torturing myself with a foregone conclusion thanks.

 

And based on her speech to the Commons yesterday May seems quite happy with events, even if she couldn’t resist a dig at saying it should have been this way in 2017.

 

I think many of us will be calling it Brexit for years to come.

 

Good. Do that. The attempt at doublethink that Johnson is trying must be resisted. Brexit isn’t suddenly done if you give the process a different name.

 

Real test will be if the media stop using it. That’ll be a test for ‘we’ve always been at war with Eurasia’ level manipulation.

Boris is in hot water again. Well when isn't he. :rolleyes: He was playing with his phone whilst SNP leader was talking about another independance referendum. Blackford stopped, jabbed his finger at him and told him off. "Can I say to the prime minister, it is not a good look to see him playing with his phone rather than listening to the legitimate demands of the SNP."

 

Boris just laughed, put his phone away and said "well try saying something interesting then" :o

Edited December 20, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

Boris is in hot water again. Well when isn't he. :rolleyes: He was playing with his phone whilst SNP leader was talking about another independance referendum. Blackford stopped, jabbed his finger at him and told him off. "Can I say to the prime minister, it is not a good look to see him playing with his phone rather than listening to the legitimate demands of the SNP."

 

Boris just laughed, put his phone away and said "well try saying something interesting then" :o

 

:P

Why is the new Speaker letting Blackford go on and on about a second independence referendum when it's a Brexit debate. :rolleyes: Boris looks bored tbh.

Edited December 20, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

Yah agreeing with Iz who's defending me. It's showing you won't be taken for a fool. The left in general is too weak a lot of the time out of politeness imo, while rightwingers as we now know visibly will break every rule in the book and fight as dirty as humanly possible in order to win, in doing so coming across as 'strong' and picking up floaters.

 

There is zero point in rolling over and taking it for the sake of being nice and taking the high moral ground when to bystanders that reads as taking it and/or rightwingers 'winning' and putting you in your place.

 

Exactly imo to an extent the issue that Corbyn had to deal with, taking the calculated risk that citizens would appreciate his honesty and lack of rising to the bait thrown his way by those on the right. They didn't - the public respond better to someone who claps back, as any celeb fan could tell you.

Why is the new Speaker letting Blackford go on and on about a second independence referendum when it's a Brexit debate. :rolleyes: Boris looks bored tbh.

Then let him resign and find a job which doesn't have boring bits.

Brexit bill backed with a majority of 124. Now Boris has a majority of 86 so others must have voted for it too.

One interesting thing Boris said this morning was that our fisherman, "trawlermen out in all weathers" will no longer be "bound by so many quotas and red tape" That has to be one positive of Brexit. Maybe they won't have to throw as many fish back then.

Edited December 20, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

One interesting thing Boris said this morning was that our fisherman, "trawlermen out in all weathers" will no longer be "bound by so many quotas and red tape" That has to be one positive of Brexit. Maybe they won't have to throw as many fish back then.

Without quotas, stocks of fish would have been exhausted years ago. The Common Fisheries Policy is one of the EU's biggest successes,