I don't wanna be pessimistic but I think it is kinda over now, I jus can't see how Berne can bring it back now. He needed to do very well in states like Texas and Massachusetts to ensure he gets a majority not just the most votes and he couldn't even win those states

 

Yeah it is over now unless something really miraculous happens. Biden winning Massachusetts and especially Minnesota is a gigantic oof, that's even worse than the already bad projections FiveThirtyEight had for Bernie.

 

Biden is still polling well in head-to-head polls against Trump so I hope I'm wrong that he has little chance in November.

 

(Lol at Warren not even coming top 2 in her own state btw - and yet she STILL isn't dropping out!)

Time to bring out the 'here's how Bernie can still win' meme (which means, for those among us who don't get irony, that we definitely think it's over).

 

Obligatory getf***edbloomberg but otherwise yeah, this is a good time for Republicans (they couldn't have been more obvious about how they wanted to face Biden and yet everyone still fell for it) and, for about six months, the doddering grandpas who voted for their own doddering grandpa in the mistaken belief that he stands a good chance, and just about no one else. Establishment wins again, poor people get f***ed on their health, and anyone who cares receives a stern reminder that electoralism can only go so far when so much of it is controlled by the establishment's interests.

 

At the least I hope Bernie can dog Biden a bit in the debates to come and still finish well. There's a long shot but possible turn of events that I'd quite like to see a few of play out, including but not limited to, the DNC forced to look corrupt by not nominating Sanders as the popular vote winner, Sanders running as a third party candidate, revolution, you know.

Shame the half a billion dollars couldn’t have gone to worthwhile causes rather than feeding an ego. An absolute disgrace and an embarrassment.

No chance at all Bernie will run as a third party, he pushed hard for Hillary after losing last time and I'm sure he'll do the same for Biden this time. Because when/if Biden loses the media will once again blame Bernie for it because of some of his supporters refusing to back Biden in November (ignoring the fact that those people would most likely never have voted for Biden regardless even if Bernie was never in the race). Maybe more likely that Tulsi Gabbard might try and run as a third party for the lolz.

What a waste of time and money that was.

 

Wrong.

 

This was all meticulously planned. It was money well spent. By inserting Bloomberg and his money, the DNC presented a new target. Bernie, instead of finishing off Biden in South Cal and in the debated with attacks on Biden's Iraq war support and social security cuts, went for the billionaire. Sleepy Joe coasted through two debates as it was CHAOS, and everyone went after Bloomberg. Bloomberg got Sanders' ire as an actual billionaire. The money let Bloomberg buy a certain level of support, but aupport thatwould vanish quickly if a moderate - Biden - emerged from South Carolina. That is why they were all in on Biden in South Carolina.

 

That allowed Biden to come back and get moderate support. Meanwhile, the DNC funds Warren as a spoiler.

 

The Repubs talking about voting Bernie was all a RUSE. They have finally admitted they came out en mass for BIDEN. It is a massive coalition of centrists, boomers, who are fleeing to the polls to stop a progressive, ala the boomers in the UK election to stop Corbyn, and Republivans voting for the weakest candidate. Kellyanne's husband is donating to Biden's campaign!!

 

It's over. Bernie should drop out today whilst there is still time to create a new, progressive party and run in 2020. All he needs to do is take some states - Cali, Utah, Vermont, Nevada, to end the electoral college and establish a multi-party system.

 

Trump has won now. I expect the usual, Mrs Quick, But how could we lose??? Comments in November from the boomers.

Michael, admit it, Bernie's just not popular enough in enough states to win the Nomination. Interesting as all your various conspiracy theories are, they're rubbish.

 

Bernie wasn't as popular as Hillary in 2016 and isn't as popular as Biden now. Anyway Biden's more qualified as he was VP.

Edited March 4, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

You are completely and utterly naive.

You are completely and utterly naive.

 

 

All this talk about the Nomination being stolen from him twice. Heard it on CNN today then a US political professor said what I have, that the guy's just not got enough going for him and isn't popular enough. Yes he is in some states but not enough wide appeal like Joe has.

Edited March 4, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Michael, admit it, Bernie's just not popular enough in enough states to win the Nomination. Interesting as all your various conspiracy theories are, they're rubbish.

 

Bernie wasn't as popular as Hillary in 2016 and isn't as popular as Biden now. Anyway Biden's more qualified as he was VP.

 

Qualifications are clearly irrelevant considering who is currently in the White House.

When you have Republicans crossing over and voting for Biden to get Trump a weak candidate, there is nothing to be done. Add Warren as a paid spoiler and of course he can't win. There are some roadblocks that are too large for ANY campaign to get around.

Michael, admit it, Bernie's just not popular enough in enough states to win the Nomination. Interesting as all your various conspiracy theories are, they're rubbish.

 

Bernie wasn't as popular as Hillary in 2016 and isn't as popular as Biden now. Anyway Biden's more qualified as he was VP.

 

Biden recwntly said the same, more or less. He said he was the best person to defeat Ronald Reagan. Yeaaaah.

 

Anyone seen these YT videos with Joe getting a little over familiar with woman and girls? There was one posted on DS today where he's touching the chest of a little girl, over top but still, and she keeps trying to nudge him off. It's as clear as anything. Bet Trump and the GOP uses these.

Edited March 4, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Anyone seen these YT videos with Joe getting a little over familiar with woman and girls? There was one posted on DS today where he's touching the chest of a little girl, over top but still, and she keeps trying to nudge him off. It's as clear as anything. Bet Trump and the GOP uses these.

 

 

 

These are the type of ads they've been putting out so far.

 

And look at the comments. The republicans WANT Biden so they can keep running ads like that one. Look at South Carolina, where Joe racked up massive % among "very liberal" voters. What would you do as a Republican and asked in an exit poll about your political leaning) You'd resort to the Repub caricature of Democrats - very liberal.

 

Boomers will not allow a Bernie or a Corbyn to win, but our generation is massively against neoliberalism. Not all of us - see, Harve - but most. This was a warning shot across the bow of the establishment. They will lose the election and the next few. Then, when the zoomers and millennials and a younger generation still dominate the voting landscape, that's when it changes.

We've already got the worst person we know tweeting with the perfect attack angle, HE's saying Bernie was robbed and Warren helped to ensure that he'd lose states to Biden. And well, if he's seeing an opportunity to win over disaffected Bernie supporters who are fed up with DNC/media bullshit, this will be easy street for him.

 

I don't see a path for victory for Biden at all.

We've already got the worst person we know tweeting with the perfect attack angle, HE's saying Bernie was robbed and Warren helped to ensure that he'd lose states to Biden. And well, if he's seeing an opportunity to win over disaffected Bernie supporters who are fed up with DNC/media bullshit, this will be easy street for him.

 

I don't see a path for victory for Biden at all.

 

I am already seeing so many people refuse to vote Biden/ be so pissed off at dnc machinations that they are saying they'll actually vote Trump!! This is going to be a Trump landslide. They will dominate the supreme court. There will be no progress possible for another 30ish years now at least.

 

I think Warren has been promised VP under Biden and was promised it some time ago. They hope that by having a fake progressive on the ticket, they can unify both sides of the party. And I oop. She is despised by progressives right now. They want to primary her out of the senate.

The grim predictability of all of the other candidates coalescing around a mediocre candidate, simply because they had the greatest chance of defeating Bernie Sanders is depressing to see. It's quite possible that we now merely get a repeat of 2016. Bring on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in 2024 I guess.

The grim predictability of all of the other candidates coalescing around a mediocre candidate, simply because they had the greatest chance of defeating Bernie Sanders is depressing to see. It's quite possible that we now merely get a repeat of 2016. Bring on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in 2024 I guess.

 

The boomers will still keep losing elections for us then. She will have to wait. The next prrsident will likely be one of the Trump kids. Man alive!

 

Actor James Woods, banned many times from Twitter, said today that "Biden will choose Hillary as his running-mate then if they win he'll resign as his dementia worsens and hey presto, she fulfils her dream and then gets re-elected in 2024. Watch this space"

The grim predictability of all of the other candidates coalescing around a mediocre candidate, simply because they had the greatest chance of defeating Bernie Sanders is depressing to see. It's quite possible that we now merely get a repeat of 2016. Bring on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in 2024 I guess.

 

 

Yes she's one to watch but couldn't stand this time as she isn't 35. Tipped as a future President though.