Random thoughts, which might veer into the morbid, but hear me out:

 

As things stand, Sanders seems the most likely to win the nomination. However, my feeling is that if he does win the nomination, and subsequently wins the presidency (which at the moment, I still think it's Trump's to lose), I do not think that he will survive his entire 4-year term (I also think the same about Joe Biden). Therefore, the most important task that he (and Biden) will have to undertake will be to pick a strong vice-President pick. No doubt there'll be other major commentators making the same comment, so any VP pick will be treated as a de facto future president as well. I've seen a few commentators suggest that Biden knows this and is purposely using his still pretty intact reputation to get the Democrats over the line in November, at which point he'll take his leave and hand over to a younger Democratic candidate, but of course this would be mere speculation at this point.

 

I agree and I would also add this concern in if Trump gets reelected, I would be sceptical about his chances of surviving to 2024 also. The VP pick this time around is likely to be the most important for a generation. Though by itself it doesn't write off any candidate if the VP can finish the original president's vision, that's literally what they're there for.

 

Most of the speculation has dealt with the already flagging or dropped out candidates and I would say it's likely that the Democratic one will be one of those. Castro or Gilibrand could be good picks. Would kind of love a Bernie/Yang ticket, though avantgarde thinking can perhaps only go so far.

 

(my prediction for a canny Biden pick is Klobuchar, she's on the same wing as him and has already done fairly well for a non-top tier candidate but is female and from the Midwest so Biden may see that as a good way to cover some of his weaknesses)

Learning from history is very useful.

 

I agree, provided the comparison is apt...

 

Trump's anti-Muslim laws and lately his executive order to designate Jews a nationality are pretty racist and worrying moves from this administration. You should be concerned about this.

 

I have confidence in the checks & balances of the Constitution, which Nazi Germany didn't have. :mellow:

In Democratic candidate news, the most recent drama is Hillary Clinton wading an unnecessary foot into the debate and saying (paraphrasing) that 'no one likes Bernie Sanders'. To which #ILikeBernie was immediately made trending.

 

(and Sanders himself is as ever a class act, his response was 'My wife likes me'

 

Social media is as ever coming out stronger for Sanders than I've ever seen it, even with the Warren thing last week - if you weren't caught up, Warren made an accusation that Sanders had said to her that a woman could never be president, something that has no basis in merit. Basically, the conversation is now almost entirely around Bernie.

 

Maybe the hype of social media won't reflect reality, but it means I'm really looking forward to seeing how the Iowa caucus shapes up.

The feeling across the pond is that Biden's the only one who could possibly beat Trump.

The feeling across the pond is that Biden's the only one who could possibly beat Trump.

 

No it isn’t.

 

The Sanders momentum is undeniable at this point.

No it isn’t.

 

The Sanders momentum is undeniable at this point.

 

 

Yes Sanders may have momentum and get the nomination. From what I've been reading it will be hard for him to get elected though. Trump will go on and on about Bernie's heart attack and that they shouldn't take a risk.

Edited January 22, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Trump will go on and on about Pocahontas, or Sleepy Joe (with an added drop of witch hunt starter), and I dread to think what homophobic slur he'd come up with should Buttigieg start to rebound. He will have a line of attack no matter what.

 

The conversation is that people are starting to get really excited about Sanders' chances. All the polling videos are exploring Biden vs Sanders, and they're basically tied right now. I would consider it very likely that Sanders wins Iowa and New Hampshire at this point, they're contests that I would guess are easy to translate online hype into real tangible votes, and then Sanders is in such a commanding position.

Yes Sanders may have momentum and get the nomination. From what I've been reading it will be hard for him to get elected though. Trump will go on and on about Bernie's heart attack and that they shouldn't take a risk.

 

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It's the first time Biden hasn't led the CNN national poll.

What did I tell you!? #MOMENTUM!!

 

He started out much higher than he did vs Hills, and she was better than Biden. Trump is panicking about Bernie winning too :rofl: Bernie has co-opted one of Corbyn's policies: broadband as a public utility!

 

Warren's smears backfired and sealed the deal for Bernie! If he wins SC or comes within striking distance, it's over for Sleepy Joe.

New national poll @CNN just out:

 

Sanders 27%

Biden 24%

Warren 14%

Buttigieg 11%

Bloomberg 5%

Klobuchar 4%

Yang 4%

Steyer 2%

Everyone else <1%

New national Monmouth poll just out:

 

Biden 30%

Sanders 23%

Warren 14%

Bloomberg 9%

Buttigieg 6%

Klobuchar 5%

Yang 3%

 

New national poll @CNN just out:

 

Sanders 27%

Biden 24%

Warren 14%

Buttigieg 11%

Bloomberg 5%

Klobuchar 4%

Yang 4%

Steyer 2%

Everyone else <1%

And that’s why people wonder if the two of you actually read everyone else’s posts. This was posted by blacksquare yesterday..

And that’s why people wonder if the two of you actually read everyone else’s posts. This was posted by blacksquare yesterday..

 

 

Yes I do. Was just testing your powers of observation by posting it again. :)

Apparently there's a Twitter hashtag trending in the US "Let's find Bernie some hot young girls" :o Speculation that someone wants to give him a heart attack! :D

Edited January 26, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Let's remember Trump did his annual physical TWICE apparently :rofl:, and for the "second" one he was rushed in! No one does a physical in two separate bits.

 

You'll also notice that the Trump trolls are now attacking Bernie. He is the front-runner now!

 

Further reading for the trump trolls:

 

https://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/watch/wh...1FC0K_pQ6EFLtPU

 

 

The farmers and people he promised to get jobs for are NOT benefitting from the economy for the rich. They can easily flip to Bernie.

New York Times/Sienna College presidential matchups for Iowa, Trump winning them all.

 

Trump 46 - Biden 44

Trump 48 - Sanders 42

Trump 47 - Warren 42

Trump 45 - Buttigieg 44

Trump 47 - Bloomberg 39

Iowa leans Repuke this election. We all know that. Bernie - 53 Trump - 42 - is all you need to know about how it's going to go though x Bye bye to the most corrupt evil president ever. As Obama said himself, Trump is a fascist.

New York Times/Sienna College presidential matchups for Iowa, Trump winning them all.

 

Trump 46 - Biden 44

Trump 48 - Sanders 42

Trump 47 - Warren 42

Trump 45 - Buttigieg 44

Trump 47 - Bloomberg 39

Those numbers for the top 4 should be fine to ensure Trump loses Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and probably Nebraska 2nd. Other states that could flip on that kind of swing, although these have very different demographics and patterns compared to the Midwest, include Arizona, Georgia (these two are overlooked as potential Democrat swing states compared to much larger Texas, which still remains a stretch target) and North Carolina.

Edited January 26, 20205 yr by Harve

Sanders is polling better than Trump in Texas!! If he wins Texas, the EC will be abolished within the year.