If You're Too Shy is also #50 combined with the edit on Spotify

Frustrating to see Think About Things remain at No.51, this time less than 200 streams from the top 50. If I was to stream it 100 times a day (not that I ever would), would Spotify count all of these plays to its daily play count? I’m not sure if Spotify apply their own caps in this scenario or if that’s just an OCC thing.

 

I mean I’m guessing Rockstar’s 531,891 plays yesterday aren’t from all unique users, surely there must be some multiple play counting going on?

 

the cap is 10, not sure if that's what you were asking

That's something I've always wanted to know actually, but never got a definitive answer.

 

We know the cap is 10 in terms of it counting for the official chart, but for the actual Spotify chart and numbers posted in this thread is the cap of 10 still applicable?

I believe so, Spotify claim to have a formula to stop artificial inflation of chart positions, so you couldn't just play it 100 times and have it all count.

I think the Spotify info in un-capped

but it's already filtered so if you play a song for just 10 secs it doesn't count

if you play a song 20 times in a row, they know it and it doesn't count

I believe that they know even if you stream a song with the volume off and they don't count it

 

but you can always fool them

you can make you own playlist and have a song many times but not in sequence, so randomly placed

and then you can get multiply streams for the same song

 

but then at the end of the day the occ will further filter for the 10x cap

It does make sense that they’d have to cap it somewhere to stop manipulation, I just wasn’t sure I’d ever read quite what that cap was, in terms of Spotify’s own counter.

Edited May 26, 20205 yr by gooddelta

I believe so, Spotify claim to have a formula to stop artificial inflation of chart positions, so you couldn't just play it 100 times and have it all count.

 

Yes, but is that for the official chart or for the Spotify chart? I'm specifically talking about the latter.

I think I read previously that the Spotify daily charts don't have the 10 plays per day cap, but the Spotify weekly charts do and so does the data they send to the OCC?

My personal theory is that Spotify apply a cap (though who knows what the amount is) to their charts, but not the total playcounts within the app. I mentioned it once before (in a random thread that probably hardly anyone saw):

On the note of the 'formula' against inflated plays, I think that applies to the charts but not the playcounts within Spotify - or if the playcounts have a cap, I think it's looser. I noticed when Lady Gaga's 'Perfect Illusion', a song likely to have a lot of repeat fan plays, came out, that the amount its total increased by each day was greater than its numbers on the charts (the difference peaking in the first few days then diminishing), and I believe I've seen similar observations from other people with other major releases since. Furthermore, a fun fact that's probably not well-known is that there are (at least) 3 white noise tracks that have accumulated over 100 million plays:

 

https://i.imgur.com/pmrJ57o.png https://i.imgur.com/51uDvYS.png

 

I think those totals are likely helped by them being put on repeat (which makes sense as, if you want some white noise while you sleep/relax/whatever, a single track is probably as good as, if not better than, a ~diverse sampler~ of white noise). 'White Noise - 500 hz' has been flying up with 95 million plays since the start of the year, enough that it could probably bubble into the worldwide top 200 every now and then (if a song had been #200 every day of the year so far, that would amount to about 120 million plays), but it's never appeared on any charts. Furthermore, on Last.fm, it has an average of 85 scrobbles per listener (and the 'White Noise Machine' one, which has been around much longer, has an average of 355), whereas regular hits tend to land around 5-15 to my knowledge.

('White Noise - 500 hz' now has as many as 332 million plays, putting it on equal par in 'popularity' with the likes of 'Dancing In The Moonlight', 'Song 2', 'Wake Me Up When September Ends', 'My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark' and 'Electric Feel'.)

 

but it's already filtered so if you play a song for just 10 secs it doesn't count

I believe they only count when you play at least 30 seconds because that's the point where they have to pay royalties.

When Shallow went to #1 was that closer to the Spotify #1?

 

I know that was never streaming number one but it managed to get there officially.

Reading the Shallow thread back, on the week it first got to #1 officially, Shallow never got higher than #5 on Spotify! On the Friday it was announced as #1, it climbed to #4 on Spotify.

 

In its second week at #1, it got to #2 on Spotify part way through that week.

HH updated and it's bad news for Gaga -

 

Hot Hits UK

 

 

 

#8 - Rockstar (+8)

 

#29 - Rain On Me (+3)

As if they have put one of the biggest new tracks at #29 :huh:

As if they have the biggest song of the last month at #8 (and apparently #16 before that) :P

Hot Hits should be renamed Cold Hits

At least Secrets is now 9th! Hopefully it can keep climbing quickly now that it's also Top 50 too.

Today's Top Hits has DaBaby at #1 and Gaga at #2, that makes more sense to me

 

Think About Things at #44 now in the UK

Gaga/Ari still #2

127K between DB and Gaga Today, I guess tomorrow will be around 150K and that's it for this week, hope they did enough I don't know what to say anymore.

They've de-combined the original In Your Eyes from the remix I think.

Top 50 for Daði, Secrets top 10 on Hot Hits, the tea was straight off the boil today :cheeseblock: I'm not too worried about Gaga/Ari, they're doing more than well enough without much hot hits.