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Not to be annoying but I’ve always felt uncomfortable with people using the fish term, hope it slowly filters out of the show as it can be quite transphobic but then Ru is exactly that
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I LOVED Ongina's entrance - the look is obviously all sorts of amazing but her All Stars 1 reference of being stuck in traffique killed me.

 

I must have forgotten that because I didn't understand it?

Not to be annoying but I’ve always felt uncomfortable with people using the fish term, hope it slowly filters out of the show as it can be quite transphobic but then Ru is exactly that

People say it’s sexist and transphobic and I kind of get the first one as it’s a reference to woman’s genitals but how is it transphobic? Just interested. It’s a word I have to stop myself from using anyway as ik it offends some people! It’s definitely one of those things that people have started to phase out only recently

I must have forgotten that because I didn't understand it?

 

 

Right there! I think it's hilarious - it's a comment on how she's always been rumoured to be cast in every season of All Stars but never made it until now - and also how she had a random cameo in AS1 as a DRIVER for the finalists. I'm all here for it.

It’s transphobic because it suggests that for someone to be a woman they need to pass as looking feminine- and some trans people might not have had surgery or might not “pass” as a stereotypical female to some

Ah right, that makes sense!

 

 

Right there! I think it's hilarious - it's a comment on how she's always been rumoured to be cast in every season of All Stars but never made it until now - and also how she had a random cameo in AS1 as a DRIVER for the finalists. I'm all here for it.

Why I am I screaming at this clip :lol:

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Pavel just means she looks feminine, which she does, I don't think it's that deep. I get how it can be transphobic though and like even aside from that, I think when drag can be anything, being "fish" is dull as f*** tbh although we all know Blair can BRING IT that alongside the look!
Pavel just means she looks feminine, which she does, I don't think it's that deep. I get how it can be transphobic though and like even aside from that, I think when drag can be anything, being "fish" is dull as f*** tbh although we all know Blair can BRING IT that alongside the look!

I always associate fish with Carmen Carrera which is probs not a good thing :')

Nothing to do with Carmen Carrera is ever a good thing, truly one of the worst queens ever on the show
Pavel just means she looks feminine, which she does, I don't think it's that deep. I get how it can be transphobic though and like even aside from that, I think when drag can be anything, being "fish" is dull as f*** tbh although we all know Blair can BRING IT that alongside the look!

I know no offence was meant ofc :)

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I honestly don't know who I want to win this season.

 

When Shea walked in first I was set on her. But then I see Jujubee, Ongina, Mayhem, Mariah & Miz Cracker (I really warmed to her post-season 10). I hope there's another double win this season at least. :lol:

I love Shea and know she will slay but I just can't see Jujubee lose AGAIN

*Fishing* for drama ok

 

What I meant was she looks STUNNING and unclockable. It's just an observation about her in that particular look.

 

It’s transphobic because it suggests that for someone to be a woman they need to pass as looking feminine- and some trans people might not have had surgery or might not “pass” as a stereotypical female to some

No it's not transphobic to call someone a 'fish' unless they specifically mean what you said (which, I agree, IS an explicitly transphobic thing to think or say). This was merely a conclusion you're making by ass-u-me-ing things and finishing someone else's sentence.

 

Also gender expression and gender identity are two different things. Let's not mix those up.

Ugh at Derrick Barry. Definitely one of my least favourite queens ever, she was so mean in her season and, while she does a good Britney impersonation, doesn't do anything interesting. We have seen the Britney enough.

 

Rooting for Shea to finally get her deserved win!

 

AS5 will be on Netflix for the UK & Ireland!! :cheer:

 

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Hope it will always be released on Netflix in the rest of the world, we are still waiting for S12 here.

 

Ugh at Derrick Barry. Definitely one of my least favourite queens ever, she was so mean in her season

 

Every season needs villains, I don't wait "Rupaul's Best Friend Race" every season.

 

I wouldn't have Season 2 without Tyra, I wouldn't have Season 4 or AS2 without Phi Phi. It. would. be. boring... like Season 12. :lol:

Every season needs villains, I don't wait "Rupaul's Best Friend Race" every season.

 

I wouldn't have Season 2 without Tyra, I wouldn't have Season 4 or AS2 without Phi Phi. It. would. be. boring... like Season 12. :lol:

 

There is a difference between adding some spice into the season and being a downright bully. Like

I honestly prefer seasons where people get along and root for each other, that's why I enjoyed the UK version so much.

 

There is a difference between adding some spice into the season and being a downright bully. Like

 

I guess I don't really see it as bullying because the queens admit that editing comes a lot into play (especially Phi Phi vs Sharon, they admitted they staged it.). That mixed the how terribly bullied I was as a child, not only at school but in my own household, so to me if the "bullying" seems downright feeble and so not real world that it blows over me slightly. :P

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