what vinyls? vinyls are in already

 

Oh I may have misread the earlier comments haha. Either way streaming added it’ll be closer to 120-130k for the first day.

Isn’t Adele’s ex American? I know she said they live opposite each other and share joint custody of their son, so makes sense if that is where he is based. I am sure the fact she can also be more secluded there helps (from my understanding the rate of tax is lower too but whether that is a factor is another matter).

No, Simon Konecki is also English, Eton educated infact! They both moved to the usa together, divorced a year later but both still based in La. Yes, the lower tax rates but the power of money also helps. That’s the only reason I’m still living in the usa myself.

Oh I may have misread the earlier comments haha. Either way streaming added it’ll be closer to 120-130k for the first day.

Steaming isn’t added?

Steaming isn’t added?

 

It’s not based on what had been posted so far. I’m just making a crude estimate if it was that’s what I think it’ll be.

Part of the problem is also that Adele's label haven't played the game. How do you get high sales in 2021? by releasing multiformats, thats the only way to achieve high sales, look at Little Mix and the 16 different formats of their GH, that's the way to go, thats how you do it in 2021. And actually ABBA did play the game 100% and thats why they did so well, cos every fan bought 6 vinyls, 3 CDs an 5 cassettes.

Adele's label has relied too much in all the Karens going to Tesco to buy the CD, but thats the market that is totally dead, they should have released 8 different colour vinyls and 10 cassettes, and we would be looking at much healthier sales even if only for week 1, cos that's what sells now and sure Adele has the crazy collectors that would buy multiple formats.

definitely seems my earlier prediction won't come close to happening then, she'll be lucky to even reach 250k at this rate.

Part of the problem is also that Adele's label haven't played the game. How do you get high sales in 2021? by releasing multiformats, thats the only way to achieve high sales, look at Little Mix and the 16 different formats of their GH, that's the way to go, thats how you do it in 2021. And actually ABBA did play the game 100% and thats why they did so well, cos every fan bought 6 vinyls, 3 CDs an 5 cassettes.

Adele's label has relied too much in all the Karens going to Tesco to buy the CD, but thats the market that is totally dead, they should have released 8 different colour vinyls and 10 cassettes, and we would be looking at much healthier sales even if only for week 1, cos that's what sells now and sure Adele has the crazy collectors that would buy multiple formats.

Does she though? She’s got a large fan base but I’m not sure she has the stans that would buy multiple vinyl formats. I think a lot of her fans were already out off paying about £35 for one, never mind about multiple copies.

If I'm doing the calculations right

Excluding the top 2, the average is nearly 600K per track yesterday on Spotify

so thats 600x12 = 7,200 sales from Spotify alone

times x2 to account for the other platforms and 30 did ca. 14K yesterday on streaming

Does she though? She’s got a large fan base but I’m not sure she has the stans that would buy multiple vinyl formats. I think a lot of her fans were already out off paying about £35 for one, never mind about multiple copies.

 

Maybe she doesn't have the crazy ABBA fanbase, but Im sure having 4/5 different vinyls wouldn't have hurt.

Maybe she doesn't have the crazy ABBA fanbase, but Im sure having 4/5 different vinyls wouldn't have hurt.

But she does have multiple vinyl variations. Educate yourself!

I think I’d have guessed 300k if I were to guess yesterday so she’ll probably do 250k.

 

It’s way way down on 25 of course but I’m not sure I’m that surprised.

 

Also makes the 200k for ABBA look even better!

If I'm doing the calculations right

Excluding the top 2, the average is nearly 600K per track yesterday on Spotify

so thats 600x12 = 7,200 sales from Spotify alone

times x2 to account for the other platforms and 30 did ca. 14K yesterday on streaming

 

Your then forgetting apple music streams which we have no idea on the numbers for, and she occupies the top 12 on Apple Music, so could add another 14k to your 14k that’s 28k then there is the YouTube streams as well that needed to be included and it’s all estimates really, but I would say she has done 30 to 40k on streaming yesterday and her total is around 150k first day

 

I imagine the itv special Sunday will do some amazing numbers too

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Adele will have bigger "casual" sales than Abba and better streaming. It's a no brainer. The CBS special was huge in the US last week, and the ITV one will boost the casual sales in the UK a lot (those Karens at Tesco) and also streaming.

 

 

Part of the problem is also that Adele's label haven't played the game. How do you get high sales in 2021? by releasing multiformats, thats the only way to achieve high sales, look at Little Mix and the 16 different formats of their GH, that's the way to go, thats how you do it in 2021. And actually ABBA did play the game 100% and thats why they did so well, cos every fan bought 6 vinyls, 3 CDs an 5 cassettes.

Adele's label has relied too much in all the Karens going to Tesco to buy the CD, but thats the market that is totally dead, they should have released 8 different colour vinyls and 10 cassettes, and we would be looking at much healthier sales even if only for week 1, cos that's what sells now and sure Adele has the crazy collectors that would buy multiple formats.

 

The OCC seriously do need to start slashing the stream to physical ratio on albums to discourage this nonsense re multi-formats or limiting one version to counting to the chart for each format.

 

In reality it's probably not as surprising as we first think for Adele's Spotify numbers to be as low as they are. Her last album came out 6 years ago, and she probably would have been viewed by 10 year old kids then as someone your mum listens to. Those 8-10 year old kids are now the 16 year olds who don't even know what a CD (an exaggeration but they certainly aren't buying them) is and stream constantly on Spotify. I can't imagine there going to listen to Adele out of much more than curiousity.

 

There does seem to be less willingness to listen to entire albums on Spotify these days, as evidenced by Ed Sheeran's = performance so getting the entire Top 12 is good going.

 

I think I’d have guessed 300k if I were to guess yesterday so she’ll probably do 250k.

 

It’s way way down on 25 of course but I’m not sure I’m that surprised.

 

Also makes the 200k for ABBA look even better!

Plus it also really shows that Coldplay clearing 100K was quite an achievement given they are well past their commercial peak

Your then forgetting apple music streams which we have no idea on the numbers for, and she occupies the top 12 on Apple Music, so could add another 14k to your 14k that’s 28k then there is the YouTube streams as well that needed to be included and it’s all estimates really, but I would say she has done 30 to 40k on streaming yesterday and her total is around 150k first day

 

I imagine the itv special Sunday will do some amazing numbers too

 

no no, 7K is Spotify then she'll get another 7K from Amazon+Apple,

Apple accounts for not much in the UK as we see week in week out

The OCC seriously do need to start slashing the stream to physical ratio on albums to discourage this nonsense re multi-formats or limiting one version to counting to the chart for each format.

Why would they do this, though? The multiple formats allow for more exciting chart battles - 2020 and 2021 have had so many of these for the album chart - which creates more publicity and more sales. Nobody's forcing anyone to buy multiple formats either so it's down to the fans. I bought 15 versions of Why Don't We's album earlier in the year and that was entirely my choice - each was a valid sale and there's no reason to discourage them.

But she does have multiple vinyl variations. Educate yourself!

You go educate yourself, how old are you? 6?

 

on Adele's website there is 1 vinyl, 1 CD and 1 cassette. HMV also has a clear vinyl.

That's not playing the multiformat game.

Your then forgetting apple music streams which we have no idea on the numbers for, and she occupies the top 12 on Apple Music, so could add another 14k to your 14k that’s 28k then there is the YouTube streams as well that needed to be included and it’s all estimates really, but I would say she has done 30 to 40k on streaming yesterday and her total is around 150k first day

The all-time record streaming sales for an album for an entire week is 79k for ÷. Just looking at Spotify figures, 30 averaged 596,936 streams between tracks #3 - #12, while ÷ averaged 760,950 between tracks #3 - #12. From what I can find, ÷ did roughly 26k streaming sales in its first 2 days (432k sales in the Monday update, of which 6% were from streams), and there's absolutely 0 chance that 30 has done more in 1 day than ÷ did in 2 given its lower streaming figures. 14k seems like a fairly reasonable estimate for 30's first day streaming sales imo.

On Adele, if the TV special leads to huge streaming increases next week do we think we might finally see ITV prioritising music programming again with TV specials. Doing them with artists like Olivia Rodrigo, Ed Sheeran, Sam Fender, Ariana Grande etc who are known outside the teen bopping demographic could be great for ITV and the labels, could also do them with older names (like the Noel Gallagher one but on ITV instead of ITV2). Could be a really good strategy for them and the labels.

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