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Annoyingly only 91 copies away from the top 10. So cruel. :(

 

The frustrating thing is they didn’t even attempt to push it properly - zero promo in the UK, no pushing of signed copies or reductions etc.,

 

It’s gonna be 11-out, I know she has decent success in Europe and to an extent the US but not sure the record label will keep bank rolling when I’m sure they initially thought they had found the next big pop star.

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You can’t argue with the way Townsend acts try to ensure they get a good position with signed records and bundles etc!
The frustrating thing is they didn’t even attempt to push it properly - zero promo in the UK, no pushing of signed copies or reductions etc.,

 

It’s gonna be 11-out, I know she has decent success in Europe and to an extent the US but not sure the record label will keep bank rolling when I’m sure they initially thought they had found the next big pop star.

 

Yeah, it almost feels like it was just put out there with next to no proper promo which is a shame. It deserves better.

Ok so I went out with some friends tonight, I sat in the front seat of the Uber and the driver took one look at me and switched the music to Ava Max 😭 I wish I was joking 😭😭

 

Sad that she missed the top ten tho, rip

 

No11 is better than I was expecting to be honest given zero promotion. It’s a good album and shame it won’t get recognised when you have the likes of Taylor Swift releasing stuff which isn’t half as good in my view and full of explicit lyrics.
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Ok so I went out with some friends tonight, I sat in the front seat of the Uber and the driver took one look at me and switched the music to Ava Max 😭 I wish I was joking 😭😭

Omg :rofl:

I'm still stuck on this album tbh. I love it so much!

 

The only one I don't really care for rn is 'Hold Up (Just Wait A Minute)'. But even then it's OK, I just prefer everything else on the album.

I'm still stuck on this album tbh. I love it so much!

 

The only one I don't really care for rn is 'Hold Up (Just Wait A Minute)'. But even then it's OK, I just prefer everything else on the album.

 

I was coming to post that this one is just clicking with me. Haha.

I’m now wondering what could be the next single off this album now that Million Dollar Baby has pretty much peaked stateside. She’s spoiled for choice with the amount of bangers here but idk if any of them have the potential to take off in a similar way to Kings & Queens 🤷‍♂️
Ok so I went out with some friends tonight, I sat in the front seat of the Uber and the driver took one look at me and switched the music to Ava Max 😭 I wish I was joking 😭😭

 

Sad that she missed the top ten tho, rip

 

Your uber driver was like "homo alert".

 

She's a gay icon.

I'm genuinely concerned she might end up being dropped by her label, although I know in this day and age that doesn't necessarily mean it's game over for somebody's career.
Hasn’t she just said there is a deluxe edition coming soon? The label must have some faith in her if they’re going to re-release the album.
I'm genuinely concerned she might end up being dropped by her label, although I know in this day and age that doesn't necessarily mean it's game over for somebody's career.

 

I'd be more surprised if she isn't dropped by them. Then again, Carly Rae Jepsen has managed to keep her record deal so who knows?

Hopefully they get the deluxe out first, though I agree the prospects of a third album are not looking great currently.
but then why she signed up with the biggest management in the world? sure there are prospects of more music and albums
I'd be more surprised if she isn't dropped by them. Then again, Carly Rae Jepsen has managed to keep her record deal so who knows?

Carly is currently on yet another tour around the world for her latest era and that's where most of the money would come from for an artist so I'm not shocked to see she's still thriving! I wonder how an Ava tour would fare and if she has fans enough to sell dates across the globe.

Carly is currently on yet another tour around the world for her latest era and that's where most of the money would come from for an artist so I'm not shocked to see she's still thriving! I wonder how an Ava tour would fare and if she has fans enough to sell dates across the globe.

 

Oh I agree about Carly - clearly she's on a 365 deal and keeps plugging away with tours which makes her label money, obviously. I'd just be surprised if Ava is able to attract that kind of low-key cult following with non-stop touring, plus she works with people like Cirkut which seems a slightly more expensive producers than those Carly uses. Overall, it will of course come down to profitability and I just can't really imagine Ava's currently being that profitable.

I get the feeling they must have funnelled so much more money into this campaign than they would've done for Carly's too.

 

Absolutely - I feel like after "I Really Like You" and Emotion they've clearly accepted Carly's career as a bit of a low-key pop artiste a la Robyn rather than trying to make her into a major pop force. It's clearly working out for her - I think a lot will depend on what sort of career they (and Ava herself I presume) envision for her. Do they think she can do the whole low(er) budget slog and constantly tour to make money for the concerned parties invovled? Is also that what she herself wants?

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