February 22, 20223 yr Some strange choices in that list, Be The One perhaps most of all (I'd understand if they'd offered Blow Your Mind as her second charting single...) A few they could have used that spring to mind: Will Smith - Just Crusin' (#23, 1997) followed a #1 solo debut; his next 5 singles as lead all went Top 3 Bitty McLean - Pass It On (#35, 1993); his 1st, 3rd & 4th singles all went Top 10 East 17 - Gold (#28, 1992) either side of Top 10s Robert Miles - Fable (#7, 1996) either side of a #2 and #3 which sold at least thrice as much Rudimental - Not Giving In (#14, 2012) either side of #1s
February 22, 20223 yr No Good Advice reached number 2 !! It also has that terrible video :( In terms of videos this and Dumb by the 411 have to be the worst for girlband second videos! Dannii Minogue- Succe$$ could be considered here , much superior to her debut bit spent three weeks at number 11 !!
February 22, 20223 yr No Good Advice reached number 2 !! It also has that terrible video :( In terms of videos this and Dumb by the 411 have to be the worst for girlband second videos! Dannii Minogue- Succe$$ could be considered here , much superior to her debut bit spent three weeks at number 11 !! You could argue that Dannii’s whole solo career is forgotten.
February 22, 20223 yr Fighting Butteflies by Steve Brookstein cruelly overlooked by the OCC again 😂 I would love to see them do an overview of the top selling X Factor artists overall. And to see if Brookstein's 2nd album sales is still below 5k. A bit annoying that they're talking about streaming "sales" when they mean the amount of plays a track has had. Yeah, it's a really shoddy piece of writing. If anyone should use the right terminology, it's the OCC themselves! Some poor people who aren't chart nerds might genuinely believe that Rihanna's overlooked second single sold "streaming sales in excess of 8 million"!
February 22, 20223 yr Some strange choices in that list, Be The One perhaps most of all (I'd understand if they'd offered Blow Your Mind as her second charting single...) It was technically her second single after 'New Love' but yeah, an odd choice to include here given that neither of those songs charted at all on their original release ('Be The One' of course later being re-released). A rather obvious mistake is the Samantha Mumba figure- 627k can't be right as it hasn't even been certified silver yet alone Platinum. Unless they just mean streaming totals rather than "sales". The entire article repeatedly refers to streaming totals as 'streaming sales' :drama: proofreader clearly needed...
February 22, 20223 yr I'm not sure what else they think these 2nd singles deserved. Many of them charted pretty high. Girls Aloud were as commercial as it got at the time so I dare say anyone who was ever going to buy "No Good Advice" bought it. There is music out there which could have been more successful if enough people had heard of it. Not with those acts listed though.
February 22, 20223 yr This is the guy responsible for the article; https://twitter.com/georgegriffiths @1496109374611279872
February 22, 20223 yr Agree with the consensus that this is an odd list. Especially Up and Shakermaker which actually outpeaked the previous singles. Most of them are not exactly highlights of the chosen artists discography either.
February 22, 20223 yr No Good Advice and Sometimes - espwcially Sometimes - were DEFINITELY the worst second single hoices here Excuse you with your weekly bizarre hot take. 'No Good Advice' is simply one of the greatest pop songs ever.
February 23, 20223 yr Agree with the consensus that this is an odd list. Especially Up and Shakermaker which actually outpeaked the previous singles. Yup. I get the argument that some singles, despite being fairly big, can get lost if they're sandwiched between two successful singles but Up and Shakermaker are pretty much both The Saturdays and Oasis respectively's breakthrough songs. In The Saturdays case I'd argue If This Is Love is largely forgotten, not Up. This is the guy responsible for the article; https://twitter.com/georgegriffiths @1496109374611279872 Let's @ him until he fixes that "streaming sales" crap. (I'm only kidding, don't @ him) (Or am I?) Edited February 23, 20223 yr by tommie
February 23, 20223 yr As strange as the terminology is, I do get why a camp pop fan might choose to claim one of his favourite singers is shifting six-figure streaming sales vs "Samantha Mumba is racking up less than 20 official sales per week. Silver certification in the year 2122 guys." Edited February 23, 20223 yr by Shoat
February 24, 20223 yr The entire article repeatedly refers to streaming totals as 'streaming sales' :drama: proofreader clearly needed...Someone at the OCC seems to have finally noticed this (or has had it pointed out to them) as the article on the OCC website has now been amended to refer to streaming totals rather than streaming sales.
February 24, 20223 yr As strange as the terminology is, I do get why a camp pop fan might choose to claim one of his favourite singers is shifting six-figure streaming sales vs "Samantha Mumba is racking up less than 20 official sales per week. Silver certification in the year 2122 guys." Except it's not his job hyping up songs. It's providing facts about chart sales.
February 24, 20223 yr Someone at the OCC seems to have finally noticed this (or has had it pointed out to them) as the article on the OCC website has now been amended to refer to streaming totals rather than streaming sales. The OCC clearly read Buzzjack :D
February 24, 20223 yr You can clearly tell the age of the person who wrote that segment based on the strong 00s bias.
February 24, 20223 yr I’ve got an example - the second single from “Sorry For Party Rocking” by LMFAO, “Champagne Showers”, only made #32 between two enormous million sellers. Well it would be a good example except that it didn’t deserve better as it was atrocious! :D But I’m sure you could make a case for it being the neglected sibling of the two monster hits. I think between us we have a much better version of this list!
February 24, 20223 yr I’ve got an example - the second single from “Sorry For Party Rocking” by LMFAO, “Champagne Showers”, only made #32 between two enormous million sellers. Well it would be a good example except that it didn’t deserve better as it was atrocious! :D But I’m sure you could make a case for it being the neglected sibling of the two monster hits. I think between us we have a much better version of this list! The list seems to be about the second single after the debut single (although LMFAO arguably had minimal success before Party Rock Anthem)
February 24, 20223 yr Except it's not his job hyping up songs. It's providing facts about chart sales. Oh I wasn't suggesting the article SHOULD have been written that way. I can just understand the possible motivation for doing so. And it's not out of character for the OCC. The majority of their content is obviously written with a pop bias. Most of their retro / flashback articles will really just be about "celebrating" a mostly forgotten teen pop star or a girl band from the Noughties. The OCC website's mission isn't really to provide sales data; it's to try to bring Samantha Mumbas, Stacie Orricos and Hilary Duffs back into the public consciousness. Edited February 24, 20223 yr by Shoat
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