'Applause' was a misfire and that is that on that.

Applause is ikonec don't even DARE

 

Venus is also ikonek ... for all the wrong reasons!!!

Unlike the "DWUW would 100% have been #1 if it had a music video" fact you keep sharing with us.

DWUW showed several indications that it would reach #1 (I can list it if you want), unlike Gypsy that would not even reach the Top 10. I have ears for hits.

01. Gypsy

02. Do What U Want (feat. someone else)

Buzz: G.U.Y

Buzz: Artpop

-Album-

03. Dreams (clean version of Sexxx Dreams x)

04. Applause

The fact is the song majorly flopped across all markets?? The fqct thqt radio played it due to payola is furthrr ttestament to the fqct thqt no one was listening to it by choice. No one bought it!+

 

The entire album flopped following it!! It took YEARS to rehabilitate her image and for people to stop calling he pretentious, or out of ideas, or that she had lost it!

 

These are FACTS. Gypsy would have been no.1 and is far better and more universal. Accept it.

Applause was a smash hit, her biggest US radio hit to date, it spent 14 WEEKS in the Top 10 in the US, her fourth longest-running single in the Top 10, only behind Just Dance, Poker Face and Bad Romance!

 

Payola and Gaga in the same sentence makes no sense as she never paid to be played on the radio and was never exposed for it like some artists, which is why many of her Top 10 hits outsold many #1 hits, so, if you can't prove what you say, just stop lying.

 

Gypsy would never be a hit and you have nothing to back up your theory (based on just your opinion and nothing else), you have no data or facts to back it up.

Sour Candy needs ha ears checking, stat!!!

 

Gypsy is HUGE!

 

Roar is also pretty basic, but how big was it? ;) It could have launchrd another 5 no.1s era for Katy with the current singles campaign, whereas Applausr eas one of the biggest A lister pop flops ever.

Roar: 17 weeks in the Top 10

Applause: 14 weeks in the Top 10

 

Roar sold more due to its funny, colorful and safe video but Applause was a huge hit and played the longevity game even without ever reaching #1.

Everything - from the vocals to the lyrics to the backing track and insteumental to the meaning to the feeliny - is better in Gypsy. GaGa wanted to release Gypsy first, but label said no :(

Except she NEVER said that :unsure:

 

Gypsy was never slated to be the first single but Sexxx Dreams, what are you talking about? :blink:

 

Gaga's own words:

 

@1299408334622203906

 

Good thing she has an ear for hits, just like me. Queen knows what's good and so do I -_-

Good thing she has an ear for hits, just like me. Queen knows what's good and so do I -_-

And yet you clearly don't think she knows what's good because you always complain about every decision she makes recently :rofl:

She's lying in that tweet. We all know the label forced the release of Applause. Sorry.

And yet you clearly don't think she knows what's good because you always complain about every decision she makes recently :rofl:

She knows what's good, but when you're surrounded by amateurs for years, you become one of them.

 

She's lying in that tweet. We all know the label forced the release of Applause. Sorry.

She, the owner of the songs, is lying, but are you telling the truth?

I really think that Sexxx Dreams would’ve been a big hit for her if there was slight tweaks made to the track. It’s a pop track what’s very Gaga in essence but also isn’t exactly alienating either where it would have turned people off and I can imagine it having a strong visual too (the only thing is Sexxx Dreams and Do What U Want being on same album meant that if one was to get single treatment the other would have to remain an album track).

 

I do love Applause though, always have done and I think it’s quite underrated don’t know if it’s just amongst this site or Gaga stans in general but I think it’s a very strong track what’s typically Gaga has brilliant production and a killer music video.

 

Gypsy was the obvious single though but I’d have released as single two or three to push those album sales. Kinda a hit that got away.

 

ARTPOP as an album title however was kinda to some people off putting from the start. It’s a shame but she was just that pop star at the time who it was seen as cool to hate on, of course she was able to bounce back from that where some artists had an era like this and didn’t really recover but the stars just weren’t aligned for Gaga to have a successful era with this era but it could’ve been a bit less chaotic at the same time. I wish the UK promo for ARTPOP was done at a different time though if we had X Factor and Graham Norton after the albums release the chart drop may not have looked as drastic (although you could then say the opening sales may have been lower).

 

 

Still gonna stick with my single choices of

 

Sexxx Dreams (lead single. Released to UK on Sunday (which I believe was chart release day back in 2013?) Applause was released mid week and may have sneaked a higher peak if it got that full week).

 

Gypsy (again release this on Sunday and release the music video and album the following week).

 

Applause

Edited March 5, 20223 yr by Jord

Yeah Jord a MASSIVE misstep this era for me was the promotion. She had huge slots like The X Factor and she gave.. arguably one of her worst ever TV performances. Performing Venus and pretty much butchering it.. I can't watch that performance back in all honesty ~ She should have done a killer performance of just one song without the gimmicks that the XF one had. Also yeah, the timing of them weren't perfect and probably killed some of the hype pre-album release.

Yeah Jord a MASSIVE misstep this era for me was the promotion. She had huge slots like The X Factor and she gave.. arguably one of her worst ever TV performances. Performing Venus and pretty much butchering it.. I can't watch that performance back in all honesty ~ She should have done a killer performance of just one song without the gimmicks that the XF one had. Also yeah, the timing of them weren't perfect and probably killed some of the hype pre-album release.

 

Speaking of performances this era that Alan Carr one of Do What U Want on the piano may be my favourite from this era. Such an underrated performance from her. The X Factor one was a bit messy but I just think it was more the timing of it for me because at that time X Factor still had a bit of an impact on the chart :lol:

 

Maybe with ARTPOP as well performing was it half the album at the APPLE event in September (two month before we got the album) meant that we sort of knew a lot of it before the album was released and then songs what were favourites were changed in a bad way (like Dope) then tracks that we heard on the first time on the album weren’t really fan favourites (Donatella and Fashion).

 

I feel like overall with ARTPOP the confusion with me sort of was that the concept she had in mind for the album didn’t really match the music on it if you get me? Chromatica kind of fits the whole ARTPOP vibe but does it in a way what’s more natural with ARTPOP a lot of the album isn’t really that “deep” it’s a solid pop album but the concept part of it didn’t translate too well I think that sort of caused confusion with the GP as well.

 

Edited March 5, 20223 yr by Jord

songs what were favourites were changed in a bad way (like Dope)

:unsure: Dope >>>>

 

Rick Rubin turned a weak song into something solid, it's no wonder he's the mind behind Adele's 21, the biggest album of the century. I wish he had produced more tracks on ARTPOP. Dope was the only improved song on the album version compared to the other songs performed by her at the iTunes Festival, the rest they actually managed to destroy.

 

In the end, the album became an overproduced mess.

Yep agreed with r Adelita here, Dope is a stunner and one of my favourites on the album. The e m o t i o n !!

I have changed my mind on this so many times, especially considering the lead single, but here goes:

July '13: Applause
Oct '13: Do What U Want (ft Miguel or Christina Aguilera)
Jan '14: Gypsy
March '14: G.U.Y.
June '14: Sexxx Dreams (Single Edit)


I've gone back and forth between 'Applause' & 'Gypsy' on what should have been the lead single & in the end I went with the former as tbh "Applause" was a good choice, okay it got overshadowed by 'Roar', but if it got released a month earlier it may have stood a better chance. The song is actually pretty decent with a uniquely offbeat chorus & very theatrical, a great Gaga song, so I've kept it as the lead.

"Do What U Want" - Say what you will but this could've been huge if handled differently. Yes I've got the idea for the Miguel feature from other posts, but I think that would have been a cracking choice & plus have the Christina Aguilera version in rotation to see which one would be more popular. Plus if Miguel featured on the video instead of R Kelly & had a different director, then there wouldn't be a problem. With the video now out there this era wouldn't be steeped in controversy & this song could have been a bigger smash hit it deserved.

"Gypsy" - For a start it wouldn't be a 5 month wait & instead have this in January 2014 with an epic music video & mammoth EDM chorus, radio stations would have eaten this up & could have easily been another smash hit for this era.

"G.U.Y." - After 3 successful smash hits, then have this as single #4 with that grandious music video. Doubt this would have been as successful as the previous singles, but would have fared better without the controversy.

"Sexxx Dreams" - Have this for the final single but re-recorded slightly for radio & could have had a 'MTN' type performance on the charts & made for a great ending to the first act of this era.

Do What U Want (Solo) [Late July 2013]

Lyrically very fitting for a comeback, different for her and a standout on the album (they could have released a remix with someone big at the time for some promotion later)

Gypsy [October 2013]

Anthemic lead up to the album and a song that easily translates to piano for her inevitable piano/hybrid performances during the November/December promotion. It also sounds like a radio-friendly album seller (Edge of Glory teas)

Sexxx Dreams [February 2014]

It's a bop that just needs a little rework/single version to really sing

Applause [June 2014]

Anything released now would have struggled so it doesn't really matter — a victory lap type single

 

I do think that the era was doomed with whatever they released anyway with all the stuff going on behind the scenes

Edited March 6, 20223 yr by blacksquare

Roar: 17 weeks in the Top 10

Applause: 14 weeks in the Top 10

 

Roar sold more due to its funny, colorful and safe video but Applause was a huge hit and played the longevity game even without ever reaching #1.

 

Longevity game with lower sales and less time in the top ten and in the low top ten, only buoyed by radio payola, but Katy Perry, with the biggest no.1 of the year, more time in the top ten, more time on rasio, morw time in the chart, and a huge worldwide hit, did not??? Roar was so big and long-lived they had to push Dark Horse back from Halloween to March!!!!

 

Roar was so big becsuse it was, um, GOOD. Great, in fact, and so was its video. Applause had a terrible video, ir was rush released, and no one connects to that song.

 

Played Gypsy this morning and it was GLORIOUS. I then played Applause ans, just like watching an episode of And Just Like That, my whole morning was RUINED.

 

Can't believe we are even having this discussion, thanks to Adelita's bonsensw trolling to be different!!

 

Oh, and because I remember the era. You are cleaely a Jihnny-comw-Lately fan. GaGa uploaded photos of her preparing a posterboard foe Gypsy. She said it was the first single :cheer: . It was ANNOUNCED as the first single :cheer: . Then we got ... the damp squid of Applause squealching onto radio instead because the record company execs were as deaf as you to hits :nocheer:

Except she NEVER said that :unsure:

 

Gypsy was never slated to be the first single but Sexxx Dreams, what are you talking about? :blink:

 

Gaga's own words:

 

@1299408334622203906

 

Good thing she has an ear for hits, just like me. Queen knows what's good and so do I -_-

 

Ok, where is your proof that you have an ear for hits? Where are the FACTS? Why do you keep trolling, Adelita?!!?! I, Cdelita, am a MUCH better Delita than you, as I stick to the brand far more and I have an ear for hits. The fact that you don't hear a hit in Gypsy or Roar shows you deaf to hits.

 

If FERGIE FERG could get a bigger hit than Applause with L.A Lover, a song which CHANTS COUNTRIES THROUGHOUT THE -----ENTIRE----- SONG!!!, then Lady GaGa could with an absolute anthem. The FINAL PART of the song, which erupts into her travels, sounds anthemic and huge, and just rounds out what sounds like a monster pop hit.

 

Oh, by the way, the Fergie Ferg who did better than GaGa with Applause with a global song, is this woman right here:

 

 

And even she did better than your beloved Applause!!!