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who is the next PM and Conservative leader? 57 members have voted

  1. 1. who will it be?

    • Kemi Badenoch
      0
    • Suella Braverman
      0
    • Rehman Chishti
      0
    • Jeremy Hunt
      1
    • Sajid Javid
      1
    • Penny Mordaunt
      15
    • Grant Shapps
      0
    • Rishi Sunak
      13
    • Liz Truss
      11
    • Tom Tugendhat
      1
    • Nadhim Zahawi
      1
  2. 2. who do you want it to be? (no easy outs this time - pick one!)

    • Kemi Badenoch
      2
    • Suella Braverman
      0
    • Rehman Chishti
      0
    • Jeremy Hunt
      4
    • Sajid Javid
      2
    • Penny Mordaunt
      14
    • Grant Shapps
      4
    • Rishi Sunak
      5
    • Liz Truss
      4
    • Tom Tugendhat
      7
    • Nadhim Zahawi
      1

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Truss will be the gift that keeps giving for Labour imo! She’s as slippery as an eel as well Chris once a remainer now in a Johnsonian brexit government!
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Both Truss and Johnson are extreme narcissists who will do anything for power. Devoid of principles and will happily to do the actions of the far right for the right financial price.

Sunak isn't much better either mind.

Yes it's like replacing the worst Prime Minister with an exact female clone except even more deranged and without a spouse to act as a slight restraining influence/voice of sanity like Carrie was for certain causes.
Liz Truss has said that unions have too much power to call strikes and she'll curb that power. GOOD. It's long overdue. All strikes should be made illegal and both sides should reach agreement sensibly round a table. Come on Liz, win this and sort them out.
Liz Truss has said that unions have too much power to call strikes and she'll curb that power. GOOD. It's long overdue. All strikes should be made illegal and both sides should reach agreement sensibly round a table. Come on Liz, win this and sort them out.

How do you expect that to work when you have effectively given all the power to one side?

Liz Truss has said that unions have too much power to call strikes and she'll curb that power. GOOD. It's long overdue. All strikes should be made illegal and both sides should reach agreement sensibly round a table. Come on Liz, win this and sort them out.

 

As someone who has never worked, not sure you have the grounds to have an opinion on this.

Liz Truss has said that unions have too much power to call strikes and she'll curb that power. GOOD. It's long overdue. All strikes should be made illegal and both sides should reach agreement sensibly round a table. Come on Liz, win this and sort them out.

 

Put all the dedicated skilled workers in prison for demanding a decent rate? I can see that going well NOT.

Liz Truss has said that unions have too much power to call strikes and she'll curb that power. GOOD. It's long overdue. All strikes should be made illegal and both sides should reach agreement sensibly round a table. Come on Liz, win this and sort them out.

 

Keep your corporate fsscism away from politics, mkay, thanks x

 

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!! NOT THE TORY OR TO THE MAN!!!

Surely the fact strikes happen in the first place is because they HAVEN'T managed to sensibly reach an agreement around a table? :???:

 

But yeah, that totally reeks of fascism on your part tbh.

Lol, Chris, keep trying.

 

I think that perhaps you should fill in for these workers during strikes so that services can resume. I don’t actually think that, but perhaps you need to know what it’s like for someone working full time for little pay.

Liz Truss has said that unions have too much power to call strikes and she'll curb that power. GOOD. It's long overdue. All strikes should be made illegal and both sides should reach agreement sensibly round a table. Come on Liz, win this and sort them out.

 

I will be voting to strike when we have a ballot. Inflation is 11%. Tories promised us a wonderful new affluent future and they havent delivered it. Not only did we get less pay over the 14 years since the banking crisis, and all benefits removed (bar a decent 25-30 days off a year compared to factories' 20 days), doing the work of 3 councils with less staff, less money, and people leaving at a rapid rate with no cheap european labour willing to fill in, but we are lined up to get a pitiful 2% pay rise which is barely more than the 1.5% NI rise the Tories brought in to pay for the NHS that they assured us would be paid for by all the money we would save from the EU fees and vast profits we would make from all those marvellous deals with other countries we are still waiting for.

 

So, yes Chris it's not a good look when you aren't one of the workers but you get RPI increases as a benefit claimer but people helping to support you by paying tax get no sympathy or gratitude. Surely you should be demanding the government to only raise your benefits by 2% as well? And state pension when that kicks in? Because if you don't that smacks of hypocrisy. Pretty sure all pensioners would soon vote Labour if they had to make do with dropping standards of living each year of 9%. You might want to consider that one day you will need an ambulance turning up in an emergency and chances are it may not get there in time because of the sheer mess of the system right now, underfunding, underpaid staff giving up and not being replaced.

 

BTW we don't get paid when we go on strike, and we have to pay the NI contributions that the Employer pays to make sure state pension is not affected. So it's not as if the taxpayer or other employer is looking after us. We make ourselves poorer to do the right thing because the people who were voted in lied to us and are still lying to us. We are not the baddies, we just turn up and do our jobs. They are the baddies.

Plus side, everyone who foolishly believed the lies and voted Conservative for the first time will definitely be having a rethink, and no amount of moaning about trains getting cancelled is going to change that when they are struggling to make ends meet. Looking forward to Mad Truss vs Sane Starmer, m'self, cos by the time of the election we will be even worse off and she'll have no more vote-buying tax cut promises left....
I will be voting to strike when we have a ballot. Inflation is 11%. Tories promised us a wonderful new affluent future and they havent delivered it.

Be fair to them. They have delivered an effluent future so they're only one letter out.

Liz Truss has said that unions have too much power to call strikes and she'll curb that power. GOOD. It's long overdue. All strikes should be made illegal and both sides should reach agreement sensibly round a table. Come on Liz, win this and sort them out.

 

If you take away peoples rights through the unions, then nothing will get done. That’s the whole purpose of unions to stand up for peoples rights. Just allowing people to get around the table to reach an agreement would never work.

 

In the current economic climate when we have inflation at nearly 10% and many things such as the cost of energy rising much faster, people should be entitled to a reasonable pay increase. Don’t forget, many public sector workers have had their pay capped for years under austerity measures from this government. That is effectively a real pay cut. Is that really fair when companies like shell and Centrica are announcing record profits? Just goes to show who this government is really serving!

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Be fair to them. They have delivered an effluent future so they're only one letter out.

:lol:

 

update: we have been offered a flat sum of £1925 onto every scale point and an extra day annual leave. That's what they call a sweetener. As in, this offer sounds fabulous and it's fair because lower paid staff proportionately get a bigger pay rise and higher paid staff a lower percentage pay rise, and you all get an extra day off work paid for! Hooray!

 

Except...errr...for me it works out at almost 6.5% rise, inflation is 11%. So a 5% pay cut. Except that about a third of the pay rise they get back in tax, so that knocks it down in reality. And I work part-time so it's half of that. So about £12.00 a week and half a day off paid (which is about £50 in cash terms).

 

I still will prob vote to strike, but I suspect the way it's been presented might persuade most not to strike (most people in my Council never strike and are not union members it's usually 4 or 6 of stood at main entrance door and one lunchtime parade through the streets which nobody minds doing cos they dont lose wages).

 

 

Be fair to them. They have delivered an effluent future so they're only one letter out.

 

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Post of the yesr :cheeseblock:

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update: we have been offered a flat sum of £1925 onto every scale point and an extra day annual leave. That's what they call a sweetener. As in, this offer sounds fabulous and it's fair because lower paid staff proportionately get a bigger pay rise and higher paid staff a lower percentage pay rise, and you all get an extra day off work paid for! Hooray!

 

Except...errr...for me it works out at almost 6.5% rise, inflation is 11%. So a 5% pay cut. Except that about a third of the pay rise they get back in tax, so that knocks it down in reality. And I work part-time so it's half of that. So about £12.00 a week and half a day off paid (which is about £50 in cash terms).

 

I still will prob vote to strike, but I suspect the way it's been presented might persuade most not to strike (most people in my Council never strike and are not union members it's usually 4 or 6 of stood at main entrance door and one lunchtime parade through the streets which nobody minds doing cos they dont lose wages).

 

We got similar, as you say I love how they present it to make out like it’s great but confuses most people and makes them think it’s a huge offer!

So Sunak who is doing extremely badly in the contest has had to come up with a strategy in order to try to save the day as he's been losing to Truss. And guess what he does - a war on "Woke"! With rather sinister references around LGBTQ+ issue- focussing on how they teach issues of sex and relationships so that pupils are “shielded from inappropriate material”. Section 28 anyone? I wouldn't be surprised by the end of the contest the candidates will have built concentration camps. Instead of blaming themselves for their incompetence, diabolical ecoomic policy, Brexit for their many failures.

 

And I was slightly sympathetic to the Non Dom tax avoiding, covid law breaking man a few weeks back when he was getting the hatchet job. Not good.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/rishi-...8633b7e6305a6bc

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