Do we think Britney stands a good chance of going top 40 this year with 'My Only Wish (This Year)'??? I really, really hope so!

 

Also love seeing Kelly x Ari so high quite early too! :wub:

101. Conan Gray - Heather

 

Impact of "Heather Day" once again *.*

To survive the saturday stream flop is one thing, to also survive a christmas influx and reach a new peak is incredible. Creepin is maybe a future no . 1 ? It is no. 3 wit. no christmas songs. Would love to see the Weeknd as not just "that guy who had one megahit" instead adda second no . 1 (Just for looks - he's hadtons of hits).

real top 10 (With ACR)

 

1) Raye

2) Mariah

3) Wham

4) Brenda Lee

5) Taylor Swift

6) Shakin Stevens

7) Ed Sheeran & Elton John

8) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage

 

#creepintocreeptono.1

Edited December 4, 20222 yr by Y'all Starlight

oh wow Raye still @1

Shame Roy Orbison pretty paper never does anything

Edited December 4, 20222 yr by Christmas star

To survive the saturday stream flop is one thing, to also survive a christmas influx and reach a new peak is incredible. Creepin is maybe a future no . 1 ? It is no. 3 wit. no christmas songs. Would love to see the Weeknd as not just "that guy who had one megahit" instead adda second no . 1 (Just for looks - he's hadtons of hits).

surely at this point The Weeknd has had five megahits? alongside BL - Starboy, Save Your Tears, The Hills, Can't Feel My Face were all massive top 3 hits.

Mimi is #1 with 823k

 

Thought you meant Mimi Webb!

To survive the saturday stream flop is one thing, to also survive a christmas influx and reach a new peak is incredible. Creepin is maybe a future no . 1 ? It is no. 3 wit. no christmas songs. Would love to see the Weeknd as not just "that guy who had one megahit" instead adda second no . 1 (Just for looks - he's hadtons of hits).

 

Sure this sounds decent, wouldn't be mad at it going to #1 but only if Raye can get a go there first.

 

(Also why doesn't Enya get a credit like she usually does :lol:)

Metro Boomin's whole album really holding up quite shockingly well on Spotify, these small drops would be impressive even without the fact that they're largely because of surging Christmas songs! 'Creepin'' has also risen to #1 on US Spotify today (it was #2 behind 'Superhero (Heroes & Villains)' yesterday), that certainly seems like it's already shaping up to be a potential big hit in the coming weeks indeed. That Enya sample really does get around.

Fairytale of New York up to #3 on Apple. Obviously #4 when you combine Wham! But still good to see it’s holding up well on at least one platform

if we want to avoid having the same xmas charts every year until the end of time, maybe it's time for oldies to have their own chart? The concept of "sales" is dead these days and playlists are no different from Radio playing xmas songs (and they don't count towards the chart, even though I'd put a large amount of money on more people listening to Elton singing Step Into Xmas on radio 2 right now than the xmas playlists, 8.4 million listeners, err hello!).

 

Doing this would keep new stuff in the chart and we'd actually get new xmas number ones instead of Mariah and Wham! each year... and end of the day it's no different from deciding to exclude compilations from the artist album chart and give them their own chart. That decision was taken after the invasion of K-Tel and Arcade and Ronco albums dominated the entire top 10 from 1972 and later on in the Now era. Rules are changed all the time in the chart world...

that’s what I’m thinking

anything on permanent acr - plonk it in a “catalogue chart”

if an old song gets a revival from tiktok or whatever then a manual reset can be granted

and then it returns to the main chart

 

given how the dates fall this year there is a non zero chance that

we have 40/40 christmas songs in the top 40 on the last chart of the year

which would probably incentivise the occ to do something

A lot of people don't like change when it comes to Christmas music. The popular songs are classic because they are tried and true over a period of time and passed down to the next generation. It takes a while for a new Christmas song to be appreciated and recognised as a classic and record companies know it's cheaper to repackage existing classics than to create new ones that will take years to become established, if ever. I don't think LadBaby are there with their 4 x #1. I don't think that will change because most listeners are not interested in seeking out anything new and the OCC shouldn't change beyond ACR because some people don't like what people are listening to. At the same time Mariah and Wham don't block modern artists getting Christmas #1.

Edited December 5, 20222 yr by Megg065

This is what last year's 31 Dec chart would have looked like with all permanent ACR songs removed:

01 Ed Sheeran and Elton John ~ Merry Christmas 🎄

02 George Ezra ~ Come On Home For Christmas 🎄

03 Gayle ~ ABCDEFU

04 Olivia Dean ~ The Christmas Song 🎄

05 Camila Cabello ~ I'll Be Home For Christmas 🎄

 

So that's 3 Amazon exclusive songs that few people even listened to, and for most of those did, not out of choice. At least the current setup is representative of what's actually popular at this time of year.

I don't think the Amazon exclusive songs should be chart eligible either but that's a separate issue

Nice to see Wham! have overtaken Mariah on Spotify. I hope they can also overtake her next week

and 'Escapism' has debuted on the US Spotify chart today at #159!

Spotify Chart Update (04/12)

 

01 02 Wham! – Last Christmas 746,790 [*PEAK*]

02 01 Mariah Carey – All I Want for Christmas Is You 736,942

03 03 Brenda Lee – Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree 620,613

04 04 Michael Bublé – It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas 591,054

05 05 Shakin' Stevens – Merry Christmas Everyone 563,485

06 06 Bobby Helms – Jingle Bell Rock 485,095

07 07 Ariana Grande – Santa Tell Me 480,858

08 09 Kelly Clarkson – Underneath the Tree 454,930

09 08 Chris Rea – Driving Home for Christmas - 2019 Remaster 452,881

10 10 The Pogues, Kirsty MacColl – Fairytale of New York (feat. Kirsty MacColl) 429,009

 

11 11 Band Aid – Do They Know It's Christmas? - 1984 Version 428,441

12 12 Andy Williams – It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 425,223

13 13 Michael Bublé – Holly Jolly Christmas 377,002

14 14 Dean Martin – Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 372,762

15 15 Paul McCartney – Wonderful Christmastime - Edited Version / Remastered 2011 356,966

16 16 Elton John – Step Into Christmas 347,157

17 17 John Lennon, Yoko Ono – Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - Remastered 2010 346,013

18 18 The Ronettes – Sleigh Ride 344,478

19 19 Sia – Snowman 333,825

20 20 Wizzard – I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday 313,716

 

21 21 RAYE, 070 Shake – Escapism. 301,885 {400,468; #13 combined, #1 combined with OCC rules applied}

22 22 José Feliciano – Feliz Navidad 289,791

23 24 Ed Sheeran, Elton John – Merry Christmas 282,014

24 25 Justin Bieber – Mistletoe 267,350

25 23 Taylor Swift – Anti-Hero 256,835

26 28 Slade – Merry Xmas Everybody 250,914

27 26 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage – Creepin' (with The Weeknd & 21 Savage) 249,720

28 29 Frank Sinatra, B. Swanson Quartet – Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! (with The B. Swanson Quartet) 238,247

29 31 Darlene Love – Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 236,170

30 30 Leona Lewis – One More Sleep 230,546

 

31 39 Coldplay – Christmas Lights 215,336

32 38 The Jackson 5 – Santa Claus Is Coming To Town 212,401

33 27 Sam Smith, Kim Petras – Unholy (feat. Kim Petras) 212,386

34 41 Bing Crosby, Ken Darby Singers, John Scott Trotter & His Orchestra – White Christmas 202,357

35 34 Drake, 21 Savage – Rich Flex 194,902

36 33 Oliver Tree, Robin Schulz – Miss You 187,374

37 42 Kylie Minogue – Santa Baby 185,751

38 32 Meghan Trainor – Made You Look 182,839

39 37 Harry Styles – As It Was 182,369

40 48 Frank Sinatra – Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas - Remastered 1999 177,985 [*PEAK*]

 

44 36 venbee, goddard. – messy in heaven 171,720

46 52 Tom Odell – Another Love 161,543

47 40 Anne-Marie, Aitch – PSYCHO 161,288

51 46 Stormzy – Hide & Seek 155,320

58 47 Metro Boomin, Future, Chris Brown – Superhero (Heroes & Villains) [with Future & Chris Brown] 148,062

63 56 Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, 21 Savage – Niagara Falls (Foot or 2) [with Travis Scott & 21 Savage] 135,982

64 54 Lewis Capaldi – Pointless 134,416

69 66 Clavish, D-Block Europe – Rocket Science (feat. D-Block Europe) 122,900

71 50 Bugzy Malone, TeeDee – Out Of Nowhere 119,433

77 77 Eminem – Mockingbird 113,729

86 100 Lady Gaga – Bloody Mary 107,795 [*PEAK*]

95 102 The Weeknd – Die For You 103,035

98 112 RAYE, 070 Shake – Escapism. - Sped Up 98,583

124 120 Rihanna – Lift Me Up 81,696

126 148 JVKE – golden hour 80,987

137 158 Taylor Swift, Lana Del Rey – Snow On The Beach (feat. Lana Del Rey) 77,196

139 151 Dean Lewis – How Do I Say Goodbye 75,917

142 136 Lil Uzi Vert – Just Wanna Rock 75,653

161 RE d4vd – Here With Me 71,017

169 196 PinkPantheress – Boy's a liar 69,297

172 RE Billie Eilish – TV 68,340

175 199 ThxSoMch – SPIT IN MY FACE! 67,861

197 182 IShowSpeed – World Cup 63,789

 

Xmas, outside top 40

43 49 Perry Como, The Fontane Sisters, Mitchell Ayres & His Orchestra – It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas (with Mitchell Ayres & His Orchestra) 174,122

45 55 Nat King Cole – The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 167,365

48 59 Queen – Thank God It's Christmas - Non-Album Single 160,381

50 58 Mud – Lonely This Christmas 156,585

52 57 Jona Lewie – Stop The Cavalry 154,780

54 64 Elvis Presley – Blue Christmas 152,793

55 60 Burl Ives – A Holly Jolly Christmas 152,675

57 62 Mariah Carey – Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 150,188

59 65 Britney Spears – My Only Wish (This Year) 145,854

60 70 Dean Martin – Baby, It's Cold Outside 142,105

61 71 Stevie Wonder – What Christmas Means To Me 136,186

62 72 Pretenders – 2000 Miles - 2007 Remaster 136,112

66 75 Kelly Clarkson, Ariana Grande – Santa, Can’t You Hear Me 130,186

68 79 Bruce Springsteen – Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town - Live at C.W. Post College, Greenvale, NY - December 1975 124,585

70 83 Gwen Stefani, Blake Shelton – You Make It Feel Like Christmas (feat. Blake Shelton) 119,688

74 86 Chuck Berry – Run Rudolph Run 115,739

75 84 The Beach Boys – Little Saint Nick - 1991 Remix 115,623

81 92 Sam Smith – Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 110,186

84 97 Cliff Richard – Mistletoe and Wine 109,531

87 95 Brett Eldredge, Meghan Trainor – Baby, It's Cold Outside (feat. Meghan Trainor) 107,558

97 105 Boney M. – Mary's Boy Child / Oh My Lord 100,218

100 119 Michael Bublé – I'll Be Home for Christmas 95,052

 

105 118 Sia – Santa's Coming for Us 91,429

108 110 Daryl Hall & John Oates – Jingle Bell Rock - Daryl's Version 91,101

109 109 Nat King Cole – Deck The Halls 90,920

110 125 Michael Bublé – Santa Claus Is Coming to Town 89,816

112 132 The Jackson 5 – I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 87,426

114 131 Eagles – Please Come Home for Christmas - 2013 Remaster 86,657

132 165 Michael Bublé, The Puppini Sisters – Jingle Bells (feat. The Puppini Sisters) 78,423

136 166 Frank Sinatra – Jingle Bells - Remastered 1999 77,417

138 157 East 17 – Stay Another Day 76,775

147 169 Otis Redding – Merry Christmas Baby 74,596

150 181 Donny Hathaway – This Christmas 73,753

151 175 The Ronettes – Frosty the Snowman 73,490

158 174 Ava Max – Christmas Without You 72,601

159 185 Eartha Kitt, Henri René and His Orchestra – Santa Baby (with Henri René & His Orchestra) 72,553

164 198 Lily Allen – Somewhere Only We Know 70,585

166 195 Dean Martin – Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 69,411

180 RE Michael Bublé – Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas 67,220

182 RE Michael Bublé – All I Want for Christmas Is You 66,880

187 RE Ella Fitzgerald – Sleigh Ride 65,383

190 RE Kylie Minogue, Frank Sinatra – Santa Claus Is Coming to Town (feat. Frank Sinatra) 64,614

what is Kelly’s spotify peak with Underneath the tree?