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I think it’s fairly safe to count Ukraine out for the win really. I’ve said this before but the war didn’t take Stefania from zero to hero - it turned a song that was a Top 5 contender anyway into a sure fire winner. This time the song isn’t at that level in the first place, but also the sympathy vote will be weaker because many people will feel that they’ve already given it once and that’s enough. I think that’s just human nature, rightly or wrongly.
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I'm in on Finland winning televote, it has that feeling. Tattoo somewhere in the top 5 but probably winning juries.

I think Loreen will win both juries and televote easily.

Id love Finland to top the televote, what do you think of the chances of Sweden not winning and coming somewhere like 3rd or are we already looking for a forgone conclusion.

Finland feels like the televote winner but I just don't think Sweden will be far enough behind for them not to win overall.

 

I'd guess Sweden 1st on jury (or maybe lower if they universally flock behind something like France or Spain) and 2nd on televote and Finland 1st on televote and like 4th to 6th on the jury vote, which you'd presume will lead to an overall victory for Sweden.

 

I'm so tempted to put money on Finland as it definitely has that winner vibe but I just can't see how the juries will back them enough for them to overcome Sweden, who you'd assume will be very high on both metrics.

 

If the contest was televote only, my money would be on Finland, but it's not.

I'm beginning to feel that Finland will win actually.

I want Kaarija out a bit further before I bet on him.

 

Where my eyes are really focused in terms of betting potential is Sweden to win Semi 1 / Sweden to win the televote. They're as far as 4/1 on the latter because people have decided Kaarija will do better but I don't think it's out of the question that Tattoo tops that and the jury.

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Any predictions now we have the full running order?

 

I won't do a whole rundown but just a few comments:-

 

Can definitely see Israel ending up top 5 with that draw. Croatia will also end up top 10 I think (possibly top 5 on the televote?). I think Norway will be top 10 with that draw too.

 

Not sure what to think of France, think they will still be top 5 on Jury (like Destiny was in 2021) but I am not sure how well it will do with the televote?

 

Sadly I dont think the UK will be top 10 but hopefully they won't be bottom 5.

 

As for the Winner, I've said it the other day but Ukraine now have a great draw. I really do worry that they will win again for various reasons. I don't think they will be top 5 on the Jury but they can certainly top the televote again. If they do win the televote I suspect it won't be 400+ but could easily be more than 300+

 

However, hopefully it will still be Sweden Vs Finland. Still hoping for Sweden even with the early draw. We have had some winners being 10th-12th so it could still do it.

Gonna have a crack at the top 10 (which as ever, will be incredibly wrong :tearsmile:)

 

01. Finland

02. Sweden

03. Israel

04. Lithuania

05. Ukraine

06. Croatia

07. Spain

08. Belgium

09. Slovenia

10. France

Norway's second verse in the jury final last night was really not great. Might not do as well as predicted.
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Ready to be very. very wrong about this but I predict:

 

01 Sweden

02 Finland

03 Israel

04 France

05 Austria

06 Slovenia

07 Australia

08 Croatia

09 Spain

10 Belgium

 

11 Czechia

12 Italy

13 Cyprus

14 Norway

15 Ukraine

16 United Kingdom

17 Armenia

18 Switzerland

19 Estonia

20 Lithuania

 

21 Serbia

22 Albania

23 Poland

24 Germany

25 Moldova

26 Portugal

01 Finland

02 Sweden

03 France

04 Belgium

05 Israel

06 Croatia

07 Ukraine

08 Slovenia

09 Armenia

10 United Kingdom

 

I guess? Maybe. Just going off some gut-feelings.

They got through a televote only semi, they’re gonna be big with juries… I am probably wrong but I think it’s gonna be the dark horse for tonight. (Oh and I don’t care for the song so it isn’t blind stanning or anything lol)
As much as I'd love France to be top 3 I've heard her vocals were shaky during the jury show last night.

in case it means anything

 

the press poll:

@1657068012124483584

 

and new for this year, audience poll:

@1657181792044982278

 

ESCXtra worked on this with other fansites and we've (well, they, I haven't been able to do much this year) already been shouted out by two BBC journalists including Emily Maitlis! referring to it as an 'exit poll' (excellent x)

Which is to say Belgium has gotta be top 5 but I think we're all predicting that now. Feels very Cesar Sampson if it comes to pass.

Happy that Belgium is looking for at least Top 10 position :wub:

 

Other than that it always been Finland V Sweden, I have a feeling Sweden will win by a small margin thanks to juries results!!!

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