Someone sending Silencer was a choice... I could have done without nazi metal tbh

Now, I'm not saying that they're not Nazi's - frankly since next to nothing is known about them it's entirely possible, however judging an artists beliefs by a handful of lyrics in a song can be tricky. After all it'd be easy to think Slayer were both Satanists and Nazis using that reasoning (vocalist Tom Araya is a Christian). It's not like we're in Pantera territory where we've all seen Phil Anselmo do Nazi salutes and shout 'white power'.

 

Also, it would mean virtually every Black Metal band were Satanists or devil worshippers and that Brandon Flowers was a serial killer.

Edited September 7, 20231 yr by Severin

Votes in - really high quality here, the full on metal stuff is not my thing but there's something very Sufjan here that really caught my attention :heart:

Sorry Wardy - had a really long week at work with multiple 5.30am starts so I've not had time to really settle and give these the full attention that they deserve. I have already done a few listenthroughs, but do want to have a couple more before I finalise the ordering of my votes. I'm out tomorrow but I promise that I'll have them for you by Sunday evening at the latest.

Sorry Wardy - had a really long week at work with multiple 5.30am starts so I've not had time to really settle and give these the full attention that they deserve. I have already done a few listenthroughs, but do want to have a couple more before I finalise the ordering of my votes. I'm out tomorrow but I promise that I'll have them for you by Sunday evening at the latest.

You still have time, I’ve not sent out any reminders yet. ^_^

Voted. There were plenty of good songs and I couldn't give points to all the ones I liked.

Keep votes coming in please. :magic:

Voted!

 

Quite a strong contest, there were a few I wanted to give points to but couldn't quite squeeze them in unfortch. Looking forward to finding out who sent what.

Reminders sent to the remaining participants who have not yet voted, along with a couple to recent members who have not participated if they wish to cast an extra vote.

I will vote today! Listening now.

 

Someone sending Silencer was a choice... I could have done without nazi metal tbh

 

Forgive me if I’m being thick but what’s Nazi about it?

I will vote today! Listening now.

Forgive me if I’m being thick but what’s Nazi about it?

That particular song? Nothing, but another on the LP titles I Shall Lead, You Shall Follow has lyrics that refer to Kristalnacht and the Holocaust in a manner which is open to interpretation as a pro Nazi first person character or endorsement by the band.

 

It's impossible to be sure given the anonymity of the band.

Someone sending Silencer was a choice... I could have done without nazi metal tbh

 

 

Now, I'm not saying that they're not Nazi's - frankly since next to nothing is known about them it's entirely possible, however judging an artists beliefs by a handful of lyrics in a song can be tricky. After all it'd be easy to think Slayer were both Satanists and Nazis using that reasoning (vocalist Tom Araya is a Christian). It's not like we're in Pantera territory where we've all seen Phil Anselmo do Nazi salutes and shout 'white power'.

 

I'd say it's far more disturbing the singer was self-harming when he was recording this. But aside from that, it's an incredible piece.

I'll get my votes in soon.

 

(Here goes me doing this at the last day as always!)

That particular song? Nothing, but another on the LP titles I Shall Lead, You Shall Follow has lyrics that refer to Kristalnacht and the Holocaust in a manner which is open to interpretation as a pro Nazi first person character or endorsement by the band.

 

It's impossible to be sure given the anonymity of the band.

 

One song I've long thought about sending to a contest has been Sabaton's 'The Final Solution', it's one of the best and most powerful tracks I think they've ever done but as you can imagine from the title it's also quite a harrowing listen (anti-Nazi but very directly about very sensitive subject matter) and I've kinda dismissed ever sending it because I think it's a track you should seek out and listen to only if you're ready for it. I would class from the description that 'I Shall Lead, You Shall Follow' as similarly, one to go out and listen to if you're ready for that sort of subject matter, regardless of which interpretation it follows.

 

Which is to say that 'Death -Pierce Me' is an interesting listen, compelling yet also disturbing in its own way with that whole mythology behind it.

Keep them coming.

One song I've long thought about sending to a contest has been Sabaton's 'The Final Solution', it's one of the best and most powerful tracks I think they've ever done but as you can imagine from the title it's also quite a harrowing listen (anti-Nazi but very directly about very sensitive subject matter) and I've kinda dismissed ever sending it because I think it's a track you should seek out and listen to only if you're ready for it. I would class from the description that 'I Shall Lead, You Shall Follow' as similarly, one to go out and listen to if you're ready for that sort of subject matter, regardless of which interpretation it follows.

 

Which is to say that 'Death -Pierce Me' is an interesting listen, compelling yet also disturbing in its own way with that whole mythology behind it.

 

Hadn't heard that particular track before, although I know the band well enough. A worthy addition to the list.

As horrific as the subject matter obviously is there are some very fine, very interesting and often emotive records about it - Christian Death's Atrocities album is harrowingly bleak yet quite beautiful in places, some songs on the Manics' Holy Bible album (speaking of self harm) such as Mausoleum and Intense Humming of Evil are among the most powerful on it and there's a project called Towering Inferno whose album Kaddish is an incredible listen. None of the above mentioned are Metal but all approach the subject in different and interesting ways. Christian Death present individual stories mostly from characters suffering the Nazi persecution, the Manics recoil in abject horror and condemnation at Dachau and the Holocaust and finally Towering Inferno 'give a dream history of Europe in the wake of the Holocaust'.

 

And of course there's Leonard Cohen's Dance Me to the End of Love, which was inspired by the string quartets who were forced to play music as their fellow prisoners were marched in to the gas chambers, whilst knowing it was all that kept themselves from being executed too.

 

All are worth your time if you're interested in the subject matter

Less than 3 hours to vote, and still waiting for almost half the votes to come in!

 

The following votes are still due to be received;

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baddaDan

Calvin Maxwell

Cow P

dhwe

Iz~

Jade

JulianT

Moby Dick

RabbitFurCoat

WhoOdyssey

Sorry guys, Idon't think I'd be able to vote in time. I had a college event from last week and ends this Tuesday, which tires me a lot.

Sorry guys, Idon't think I'd be able to vote in time. I had a college event from last week and ends this Tuesday, which tires me a lot.

Ah ok Cow, well hopefully you can get a decent result despite the deduction, hope you can get some rest too.

with each passing Nuggets edition I feel more and more out of depth :o

 

maybe it's my tastes and I'm just being weird

Nuggets being guitar-based is like a completely different world or spectrum of art and/or entertainment (like any genre/style-based contests I guess?). :lol:

 

I mean, I was not familiar with Silencer or was aware of the band's association with that certain something (whether as a belief and/or for shock value).

Edited September 11, 20231 yr by All★bySmashMouth