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I like RAYE, but her clean sweep just feels so manufactured and a reaction to media backlash. Best Album? Really?!?!

Raye breaking records tonight.

 

Could we see quite a big impact re her album on the albums this week? I think it could get a lot of curiosity listens of the back of this and perhaps a sales boost too even a small sales boost would be enough though?

 

I do think she’s in a great position at the moment though regarding good will around her. I think if she follows up this album fairly soon (say early next year or even late this year with the first single) she could be in for quite a big sophomore album.

I forgot until I saw someone mention that Escapism didn’t chart at all for a while after it released, until it took off on TikTok.

 

I wonder where her career would be if that never happened!

It’ll be interesting to see the ratings for this tomorrow, I suspect they’ll be the lowest yet. Hopefully someone will post the ratings from the last few years to compare.
It’ll be interesting to see the ratings for this tomorrow, I suspect they’ll be the lowest yet. Hopefully someone will post the ratings from the last few years to compare.

 

It’s a shame it’s a Saturday show now and not midweek like it’s been in the past because I imagine some of the target audience may well have been out while it aired. It could possibly do good on catch up? But I do imagine they may well be low but possibly enough to still win for its time slot? I always watch (more from habit just as a music geek) but I always record it and watch it around 15-20 minutes later so I can skip the adverts. Without fail I end up watching it in real time towards the end as well :lol:

 

That was one of the most boring BRITs I've ever tuned in for, but I did really enjoy RAYE and Rema's performances (surprisingly so for the latter, I do like 'Calm Down' but I didn't expect the performance to be anything particularly interesting), Kylie was a good closer too. And tbf there were a few quite surprising award winners with most of those being pleasant surprises - thank god Becky didn't just get handed the dance award a third time in a row, was also happy with the wins for Bring Me The Horizon and SZA + nice to see a real curveball win from CASISDEAD although I'm not familiar with his music, it's just good to know they do sometimes give awards to completely unexpected people. RAYE winning Best New Artist is definitely questionable (out of all the winners of that award since 2016 the only one who had a top 75 hit before RAYE was Dua Lipa...!) but the nominee list for that was a trainwreck in general to be fair. I think all of her other awards were well deserved, I mean I'd have given AOTY to Young Fathers but that was never going to happen, her album was still very good.

 

The lowlight of the night (aside from the many completely flat attempts at humour from the hosts) had to be that terrible performance from Tate McRae - yes she's a good dancer but it's like she kept completely forgetting she's supposed to be a singer? :lol: Still love 'greedy' as a song but that performance did not sell it at all.

The same industry that rejected Raye in the first place is now rewarding her - you cannot make this shit up LOL

 

Anyway, great for her and I like her, but like I wrote earlier in this thread, the whole thing will look very odd in the future. And I wrote in the sales thread yesterday that the UK music industry needs new superstars. Dua, Ed and Adele cannot carry the whole industry on their shoulders forever.

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I do like Raye but from the noms it was 100% clear the industry had decided she was gonna win it all

Don't think her album deserved it

But biggest Lol had to be Raye performing Prada

I suggested she was gonna do it and someone laughed saying she hated the song lol

Just watched Becky Hill and Chase & Status performance, and I love that they invited the guy from C&S Boiler Room as a backup dancer

Well, that was a Brit Award ceremony I guess....

 

Unsurprisingly I have to agree that the hosting was not great this year, but that's pretty normal for the Brits. 'Escapism.' winning song of the year at the beginning was a decent start (although, it was predictable when RAYE had so many nominations), easily my favourite from the category by a long way. I didn't really know who was going to win best group (except for Headie X K-Trap) but Jungle's last album was great to very deserved (I think I would've preferred Chase & Status or Young Fathers tho). I'm impressed with RAYE's sweep but it does get a little boring when the same artist is continually going back and forth to the stage. Still kinda peeved about RAYE winning best new artist (I know this is like a career rebirthing for RAYE but she could've easily been nominated for it between 2018-2019 imo, same for Mahalia) but if she stopped Olivia Dean from winning it then we're good x. Dula Peep winning Best Pop from only releasing three singles, our flop kween delivered (she always gives a good speech as well)! Calvin winning Best Dance is a better result than what I thought would occur in that category but I fear everyone (bar Becky Hill) deserved the award more than him oop. Nice to see BMTH's first win, I really liked 3/4 singles they released last year but I think I would've preferred to see Young Fathers get the win (they looked pretty sad whenever they lost an award :(). Underdog Casisdead getting an award was unexpected and expected for me at the same time :lol: I knew he had quite a dedicated fanbase so I'm sure they would've been constantly voting every day for this win (I still would've preferred to see Simz or Dave pick this one up). SZA winning was a huge shock but I'm over the moon for it, a much more deserved winner in comparison to Miley Cyrus or Taylor Swift's works in late 2022-2023. Boygenius winning is pretty cool but Miley winning best song (I understand why tho ofc) :wacko:

 

Dua's opening performance was solid! I'm also wondering why they didn't squeeze in 'Houdini' but nvm. The performance of 'Miracle' fell a little flat for me at first but the addition of the Hardwell remix towards the end picked up the pace for the better. Tate McRae & Jungle delivered pretty unmemorable performances oop. Tate performs 'Greedy' like that whenever she performs it unfortunately, I really don't like that style of singing two lines and then skipping six. An unremarkable performance from Becky Hill as well (even 'Baddadan' couldn't save it :cheeseblock:). Agreed that Rema's performance was actually really good! It changed from a boring and bland song to a really fun track. I think Selena Gomez is the problem :kink: RAYE's performance was by far the best tho (she even made 'Prada' sound like a masterpiece, DBE could never). I'm yet to see the full Kylie performance as I fell asleep at the start lol.

Okay, Calvin needs to credit Hardwell if he decided to release that original x remix live edit (cuz he already did, with Hardwell uncredited).
Raye breaking records tonight.

 

Could we see quite a big impact re her album on the albums this week? I think it could get a lot of curiosity listens of the back of this and perhaps a sales boost too even a small sales boost would be enough though?

 

I do think she’s in a great position at the moment though regarding good will around her. I think if she follows up this album fairly soon (say early next year or even late this year with the first single) she could be in for quite a big sophomore album.

 

She’s put some foil Brits special cds of the album up a la Lewis Capaldi which got him #1 in the first week of Jan! They’re a fiver but shipping is £7 so not sure how many she’ll sell of those. Could be a small boost I’d imagine though

All credit to pink, I am a big fan myself, she is an incredible artist and deserves acknowledgement, it just stunk of record label buying it for promo for a brand new album.

 

Tbf very few people think she doesn’t deserve the award, it’s simply that others deserved it before she did. As said above Kate Bush and the Rolling Stones, literally how the hell they haven’t got it is gobsmacking. Then she remains the only non-British person to have win it and if you are going to award it to a none Brit then Madonna, Michael Jackson, Kylie Minogue, Cher and a whole host of others come to mind before Pink.

 

Yeah, and I actually haven’t denied that point. I just saying she deserved it regardless of that point and regardless of the fact that others may have deserved it too. I mean, you’d probably argue with me that Spice Girls deserved winning it just 3 years and 2 albums into their career before all those artists you’ve listed when really that was also a dubious award at the time. But they don’t get played down on this site the way Pink does so some other posters always target Pink’s success to play down first.

 

And just to clarify, I’m not saying you play down Pink’s success, I’m just stating that many here do.

 

As for the show, I didn’t watch as I was out last night and I don’t tend to bother with it these days anyway unless I really want to see someone perform. I’ll try and check out Kylie’s performance but I wasn’t too interested in this year’s show. I’m happy Raye has done well as she’s always seemed like a great person and it’s been sad to see her struggles just to get an album out there. I haven’t actually checked out her album, is it any good?

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