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I expect to wake up and see Israel overtaking Croatia :/
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Assuming juries only give Israel, say 80 points, and they then hypothetically get a clean sweep on the televote, would any other entry really be able to collect 500 points overall? If Croatia are to do it then they’d need all the 10s, which won’t happen, and at least 150 points from the juries. Quite a tall order to say the least and I don’t see anyone else managing it.

 

The jury would have to really get well behind Croatia or Ukraine in a big 200-250 points way I guess.

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If Israel win it’ll change the contest totally - over to EBU who banned Russia and Belarus and will now have to deal with the fallout out of a potential Israel win and host.

We'll see what happens both diplomatically and in terms of public mood but on the current trajectory I don't see how the contest can be hosted by Israel next year, if it stays on the current trajectory that is.

 

All evidence points to this year's Israel vote as being minoritarian but I'm still cynical because it's difficult to imagine the situation being anymore catastrophic than it is now, and I fear that in a year's time fatigue will have set in and large swathes of the public just wouldn't care.

 

If the geopolitical situation with Ukraine had been different (and therefore, like Israel, Russian had never been banned in 2022) and Russia won this year, would the general population care enough about war crimes to be outraged at a Russia 2025 host now that the war is long gone from headlines?

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To win;

 

6/5 Croatia

3/1 Israel

15/2 Switzerland

16/1 France

22/1 Ukraine

25/1 Ireland

35/1 Italy

80/1 Netherlands

250/1 Finland

250/1 United Kingdom

 

Israel as low as 2/1.

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Can totally see France and Switzerland being top on the jury vote & then it’s all down to the public
Can totally see France and Switzerland being top on the jury vote & then it’s all down to the public

 

Francw will flop again. Ireland will top the jury vote. If this DOES become political voring, ans I doubt it, then Ireland will also get a lor of votes

Odds: (Coral)

 

Croatia 5-6f

Israel 9-4

Switzerland 6-1

France 12-1

Ukraine 14-1

Ireland 16-1

Italy 25-1

Netherlands 50-1

Austria 150-1

Cyprus 150-1

Finland 150-1

Georgia 150-1

Greece 150-1

UK 150-1

Armenia 200-1

Estonia 200-1

Lithuania 200-1

Norway 200-1

Spain 200-1

Sweden 200-1

Germany 300-1

Slovenia 300-1

Luxembourg 400-1

Portugal 400-1

Latvia 500-1

Serbia 500-1

Really hope Isreal aren’t in the top 10 at all, the fact they are second is a joke. Hoping the running order will knock them down and hoping the jury don’t give them loads of votes
Israel, were 20/1 with Coral now down to 9/4, the way this is going they could challenge Croatia for favouritism.

I can't see Israel getting much from the televote or the jury. Ireland will win jury vote. France's latest ballad is overhyped. Juries still haven't caught on tot he fact that those always flop these days.you can remove it from the odds for a clearer picture.

 

I think Israel is getting spammed in the bookies due to people thinking it eill ge tthe sympsthy vote after being booed. It eon't. If the vote DOES!! turn political, then Ireland will ALSO heavily benefit.

Did you miss the part where they got 39% of the votes in Italy?
Did you miss the part where they got 39% of the votes in Italy?

 

Have you seen the follow up statement from Italy?

Imagine thr propaganda win for Putin if Israel does win though!! :drama: He can scream about wrstern double standards and demand to be let back in!!!
I can't see Israel getting much from the televote or the jury. Ireland will win jury vote. France's latest ballad is overhyped. Juries still haven't caught on tot he fact that those always flop these days.you can remove it from the odds for a clearer picture.

 

I think Israel is getting spammed in the bookies due to people thinking it eill ge tthe sympsthy vote after being booed. It eon't. If the vote DOES!! turn political, then Ireland will ALSO heavily benefit.

 

I’m actually so tempted to place a £10 bet on Ireland at 25/1. :unsure: something about it screams winner.

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To win;

 

17/20 Croatia

3/1 Israel

9/2 Switzerland

22/1 Ireland

25/1 France

33/1 Ukraine

50/1 Italy

250/1 Armenia

250/1 Finland

250/1 Greece

250/1 Sweden

250/1 United Kingdom

300/1 Austria

300/1 Georgia

300/1 Norway

375/1 Lithuania

400/1 Spain

500/1 Cyprus

500/1 Estonia

500/1 Germany

500/1 Latvia

500/1 Luxembourg

500/1 Portugal

500/1 Serbia

500/1 Slovenia

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