It just said 2006 so 9 months after say April or May 2005, while she was still there, would still be a 2006 birth, I do think she is lying though and thinks it’s just a way to get money/help to find her son since Sharon would want to help find anything related to Dennis and the whole episode they made a big thing out of Kat not having the money to help her.

Plus the twins looked mixed face in the flashback for one lol

Yeah I definitely think Zoe is lying as a means to get Sharon to fund the search. Quite ruthless to play Sharon like that; Zoe has been made aware a couple of times how Dennis Jr. was the "last link to Dennis" and that type of emotional manipulation is exactly what Den did when he told Zoe to lie about being pregnant, knowing how Sharon would react.

Do we reckon Jasmine is Zoe's child that she thought died at birth? Seems a bit obvious but considering Oscar is going to get involved with her and the Zoe/Max connection, it's the sort of coincidental storytelling that the show loves.

It's great to have Sharon back and I am absolutely loving Vicki atm - perhaps my favourite character in the cast right now!

55 minutes ago, Liam.k. said:

Yeah I definitely think Zoe is lying as a means to get Sharon to fund the search. Quite ruthless to play Sharon like that; Zoe has been made aware a couple of times how Dennis Jr. was the "last link to Dennis" and that type of emotional manipulation is exactly what Den did when he told Zoe to lie about being pregnant, knowing how Sharon would react.

Do we reckon Jasmine is Zoe's child that she thought died at birth? Seems a bit obvious but considering Oscar is going to get involved with her and the Zoe/Max connection, it's the sort of coincidental storytelling that the show loves.

It's great to have Sharon back and I am absolutely loving Vicki atm - perhaps my favourite character in the cast right now!

I’ve seen TikToks saying the most crazy things for Zoe and her twins including:

• Jasmine is the surviving son and has transitioned?!

• Dennis is still alive like he didn’t die in Sharon’s arms

• Drake Zagan the podcaster will end up being her son lmfaoooo 😭😭

• Still people saying it was Den’s like he didn’t die when it was barely into 2005

Part of me thinks the dad doesn’t matter and it’s just more about giving Zoe a tragic backstory butI do wonder if both the dad and identity of the child will be a big Christmas thing or it also gives a chance to cast a new character and bring some drama later on if it is a random guy rather than say Antony. It could be Jasmine, I suppose, but I feel like she is just a random side character as a catalyst to Freddie’s exit more than anything possibly.

Oh they're so desperate to make Kim's "catchphrase" a thing it's so annoying, honestly she's probably top of my list to be axed and this putting Howie into some sort of villain era is just bizarre, it's like Billy and the charity box all over again 😂

I think Jasmine will be difficult to warm to, not sure she's going to be a permanent fixture?

So it’s pretty much confirmed that Dennis isn’t the father already purely on the basis that Zoe just said he is. I feel like it’s definitely leading to an Anthony reveal though I’m not sure that’ll be that satisfying.

And when will Sharon realise that she still has the last bit of Dennis in that granddaughter she never sees or talks about.

I think the way she reacted to Anthony trying to kiss her could indicate that he's the father, she doesn't want to get closer to him again incase he finds out

5 hours ago, Lindsey. said:

Oh they're so desperate to make Kim's "catchphrase" a thing it's so annoying, honestly she's probably top of my list to be axed and this putting Howie into some sort of villain era is just bizarre, it's like Billy and the charity box all over again 😂

I think Jasmine will be difficult to warm to, not sure she's going to be a permanent fixture?

Kim is absolutely top of my list to go, she’s about as funny as being kicked in the groin. She doesn’t bring anything other than them forcing her to be some comedy character when none of it is even remotely funny

I actually don’t mind Kim, I don’t think she’s as funny as she used to be though. It’s nice to see Howie actually getting some screen time but frustrating to see him going down a criminal by numbers route.

Kim is much better used for comedy when she’s winding Denise up as they’ve got great chemistry. She can also do serious stuff well but they never give her any. Mo is in a similar boat. Her best scenes since she came back were the sweet moments with Mickey and Zoe, not shouting about knock offs and Fat Elvis.

Jean similarly lacks the fun and warmth that once made her great. I couldn’t believe how judgemental she was about Zoe.

Also

Cackling at the thought of Drake Zagan being Zoe's son.

Not sure how I feel if Jasmine does turn out to be Zoe's. It would be like Danielle/Ronnie all over again.

I've read that Peter and Lauren might be exploring polyamory. Would explain Lauren's chill reaction to Demi taking an interest in him.

22 hours ago, Lindsey. said:

I don't quite buy that Dennis is the dad???

Maybe it will fuel Sharon to look for Zoe's son as well though so she can "find the last part that's left of Dennis"

I can guarantee it's to use Sharon's money, but I'd also be here for him being the dad tbh

37 minutes ago, T Boy said:

I actually don’t mind Kim, I don’t think she’s as funny as she used to be though. It’s nice to see Howie actually getting some screen time but frustrating to see him going down a criminal by numbers route.

Kim is much better used for comedy when she’s winding Denise up as they’ve got great chemistry. She can also do serious stuff well but they never give her any. Mo is in a similar boat. Her best scenes since she came back were the sweet moments with Mickey and Zoe, not shouting about knock offs and Fat Elvis.

Jean similarly lacks the fun and warmth that once made her great. I couldn’t believe how judgemental she was about Zoe.

Yeah Kim’s comedy works well against Denise’s “straight man comedy”. I love their relationship when used well and Tameka can rise to the challenge when given serious material. I’m hoping her running over her camera equipment is the end of her influencing but it remains to be seen.

Kim's annoying these days. The only time the srupid influencer thing was funny was with the Murder House tour, which Big Moe masterminded anyway!

6 minutes ago, Big Fat Sue said:

Kim's annoying these days. The only time the srupid influencer thing was funny was with the Murder House tour, which Big Moe masterminded anyway!

That’s interesting because I’d say those scenes were examples of exactly what they get wrong with Kim and Mo these days. Yes, they’re comedy characters but this completely stripped them of humanity and was incredibly cruel. I didn’t find it funny at all.

Jasmine being Zoe’s isn’t even just a rerun of Ronnie/Danielle, we can hark all the way back to Kathy/Donna for the blueprint. One can hope they don’t tragically kill Jasmine off after the reveal just so something could be different.

1 hour ago, lewistgreen said:

Cackling at the thought of Drake Zagan being Zoe's son.

Not sure how I feel if Jasmine does turn out to be Zoe's. It would be like Danielle/Ronnie all over again.

I've read that Peter and Lauren might be exploring polyamory. Would explain Lauren's chill reaction to Demi taking an interest in him.

Oh I didn't even consider that it might be them exploring polyamory, I honestly don't see the BBC going down that route especially with Peter but it would be a very modern plot point for them to include, I'd be interested to see how they'd do that.

I think they're just going to use it as an "oh do I actually love/want Peter if I'm not scared to lose him/jealous of the attention he gets?" thing for Lauren or to highlight Peters fragile ego. Peter couldn't do polyamory bc he'd constantly compare himself to Lauren's other partners or feel jealous or as though he's got to compete with Lauren. The only way it would work is if it's all on his terms I suppose.

I'm convinced Jasmine is something to do with the Fords

On 24/09/2025 at 12:27, T Boy said:

So it’s pretty much confirmed that Dennis isn’t the father already purely on the basis that Zoe just said he is. I feel like it’s definitely leading to an Anthony reveal though I’m not sure that’ll be that satisfying.

And when will Sharon realise that she still has the last bit of Dennis in that granddaughter she never sees or talks about.

Anthony cannot act!!! It will be the worst result! But why else is that wooden menace back on the Sauare? Storyline is very telegraphed and obvious.

 

18 hours ago, Lindsey. said:

I'm convinced Jasmine is something to do with the Fords

💯💯

Also very here for this

How does Marie even know Max?!

Wow, Denise cannot act anymore.

Edited October 1, 2025Oct 1 by Big Fat Sue