3 hours ago, Bjork said:

what makes the Ed songs more of a flop is how their success is 100% due to Alexa/Amazon, all have done poorly on Spotify,

but paying Alexa to play the song every 5 minutes kinda helps :)

Amazon is a valid streaming service. Please understand this, it's pretty tiring reading this conspiracy all the time.

The lack of playlist support for the new Sam/Olivia song on Spotify is baffling - Sam’s album has been huge, they’ve heavily supported this era (even the pre-album track drops that were not touted as singles got high NMF support), they have also been supportive of Olivia

Oh here's we go again sabrinas free falling, yet been fluctuating been 400 and 600k since day 2 😂😂

Just now, 777666jason said:

Oh here's we go again sabrinas free falling, yet been fluctuating been 400 and 600k since day 2 😂😂

She was 120k down yesterday from last week that’s free falling in my book

17 minutes ago, Liam Sota said:

She was 120k down yesterday from last week that’s free falling in my book

Free falling so badly she been number 1 all week 😂

1 minute ago, 777666jason said:

Free falling so badly she been number 1 all week 😂

Week on week over the last 3 days she’s down 230k. Spin it how you want her numbers are crashing. Dior is rising on all platforms.

Spotify Chart Update (20/06)

01 01 Sabrina Carpenter – Manchild 523,199

02 02 Alex Warren – Ordinary 493,161

03 04 MK, Chrystal – Dior (feat. Chrystal) 422,438 PEAK

04 03 Ravyn Lenae – Love Me Not 405,127

05 07 Fred again.., Skepta, PlaqueBoyMax – Victory Lap 400,971 PEAK

06 06 Chappell Roan – Pink Pony Club 319,789

07 05 sombr – undressed 309,509

08 08 sombr – back to friends 288,075

09 09 Max Dean, Luke Dean, Locky – Can't Decide 268,457

10 15 Benson Boone – Mystical Magical 265,776 PEAK

11 11 Billie Eilish – BIRDS OF A FEATHER 254,604

12 12 Lola Young – Messy 249,708

13 10 Olivia Dean – Nice To Each Other 247,993

14 18 Calvin Harris, Clementine Douglas – Blessings 239,645

15 19 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 236,655

16 16 Skye Newman – Family Matters 232,949

17 13 Gracie Abrams – That’s So True 232,787

18 NE Sam Fender, Olivia Dean – Rein Me In 229,873 PEAK

19 14 Tate McRae, F1 The Album – Just Keep Watching (From F1® The Movie) 224,695

20 17 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 222,249

21 21 Lola Young – One Thing 216,226

22 20 Ed Sheeran – Azizam 209,579

23 24 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 207,586

24 22 Ed Sheeran – Sapphire 202,819

25 26 Chrystal, NOTION – The Days - NOTION Remix 201,365

26 25 Myles Smith – Stargazing 197,744

27 RE Sam Fender – Rein Me In 195,587 PEAK

28 23 Charli xcx – party 4 u 192,025

29 27 Sabrina Carpenter – Taste 185,763

30 35 Hozier – Too Sweet 181,570

31 30 MOLIY, Silent Addy, Skillibeng, Shenseea – Shake It To The Max (FLY) - Remix 178,814

32 32 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 178,086

33 28 Gigi Perez – Sailor Song 177,539

34 37 ROSÉ, Bruno Mars – APT. 177,087

35 31 Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars – Die With A Smile 175,907

36 34 Sonny Fodera, Jazzy, D.O.D – Somedays 175,487

37 29 Tate McRae – Sports car 172,346

38 38 WizTheMc, bees & honey – Show Me Love 172,309

39 43 Morgan Seatree, Florence + The Machine – Say My Name - Remix 169,708 PEAK

40 54 Benson Boone – Sorry I'm Here For Someone Else 168,726

41 45 Disco Lines, Tinashe – No Broke Boys 167,260 PEAK

43 40 Addison Rae – Fame is a Gun 161,788

44 33 Alex Warren, Jelly Roll – Bloodline (with Jelly Roll) 157,816

52 52 Black Eyed Peas – Rock That Body 147,622

56 48 Tate McRae – Revolving door 138,253

59 78 Levi Heron – The Glen - Levi Heron Edit 137,139 PEAK

63 NE Rossi., Jazzy – High On Me 135,527 PEAK

64 55 Myles Smith – Nice To Meet You 134,649

66 NE sombr – we never dated 132,674 PEAK

72 NE Benson Boone – Mr Electric Blue 127,722 PEAK

75 76 Skye Newman – Hairdresser 125,246

77 NE Central Cee, Sexyy Red – GUILT TRIPPIN (feat. Sexyy Red) 124,562 PEAK

91 NE KATSEYE – Gabriela 113,244 PEAK

92 133 Sammy Virji, Skepta – Cops & Robbers 112,871

95 105 Josh Baker, Omar+ – Back It Up 111,572 PEAK

96 NE Lorde – Hammer 111,400 PEAK

104 80 Coldplay – Sparks 109,026

106 NE JADE – Plastic Box 107,676 PEAK

109 NE Muse – Unravelling 107,160 PEAK

117 130 PinkPantheress – Illegal 104,574

132 NE Loyle Carner – time to go 96,623 PEAK

135 118 Mark Ronson, RAYE – Suzanne 95,861

137 NE HAIM – All over me 95,372 PEAK

138 109 wifiskeleton, i wanna be a jack-o-lantern – Nope your too late i already died 95,010

140 129 Olivia Dean – Dive 94,572

152 RE Lorde – What Was That 92,736

156 NE Ed Sheeran, F1 The Album – Drive (From F1® The Movie) 92,054 PEAK

186 NE Cardi B – Outside 86,924 PEAK

4 minutes ago, Liam Sota said:

Week on week over the last 3 days she’s down 230k. Spin it how you want her numbers are crashing. Dior is rising on all platforms.

Oh I forgot about songs a flop if it isn't doing the same numbers every single day 😂😂😂

Only a handful of songs have had multiple days over 500k this year

And hopefully Dior continues to rise and has a shot at being the next number 1

Are you so upset over all finally going to acr any other success is a flop 🤭

I need 'Dior' to becoming an official #01. Can't get enough of it at the minute!

4 hours ago, Bjork said:

what makes the Ed songs more of a FLOP is how their SUCCESS is 100% due to Alexa/Amazon...

Not to be the Grammar Police, but how do you talk about a song being a FLOP due to its SUCCESS in the same sentence?

Me reading this thread

Fact: Manchild is doing way worse than Espresso, PPP and Taste did

Also fact: Manchild is still going to be #1 this week.

Both can be true.

Just now, Sour Candy said:

Fact: Manchild is doing way worse than Espresso, PPP and Taste did

Also fact: Manchild is still going to be #1 this week.

Both can be true.

Might not be Number 1 this week... Dior is waiting

God the arguments in this thread are tiring this week

Can we just appreciate the entire top 5 have all done over 400k for a couple of days now. Pretty impressive the way this years gone so far

Just want to note that it's a fallacy to treat every single (even by major artists) as if they're written specifically to be instant #1 hits, especially if they just don't sound like it. To avoid the negatively associated buzzwords, sometimes they can just be made to show the range & potential of the album in question, and probably helps the bottom line a lot in the long run.

Often times also these songs that appear to be coasting or underwhelming just don't fit the vibe of the top 40 but then go on to do really well after the fact.

Here's a top 10 from 7 years ago, which song here do you think has the most streams on Spotify nowadays?

Answer: it's the one spending its first and only week in the top 10

43 minutes ago, ElectroBoy said:

Might not be Number 1 this week... Dior is waiting

There’s no eveidence (yet) to show Dior will jump from 30k up to 55k and Manchild will fall THAT much this week.

14 minutes ago, Dircadirca said:

Just want to note that it's a fallacy to treat every single (even by major artists) as if they're written specifically to be instant #1 hits, especially if they just don't sound like it. To avoid the negatively associated buzzwords, sometimes they can just be made to show the range & potential of the album in question, and probably helps the bottom line a lot in the long run.

Often times also these songs that appear to be coasting or underwhelming just don't fit the vibe of the top 40 but then go on to do really well after the fact.

Here's a top 10 from 7 years ago, which song here do you think has the most streams on Spotify nowadays?

Answer: it's the one spending its first and only week in the top 10

Don’t really think that’s a good point since most of its streams came from elsewhere in the world. It did a lot better in other countries

Just now, Steve201 said:

There’s no eveidence (yet) to show Dior will jump from 30k up to 55k and Manchild will fall THAT much this week.

True - I still think it will be close though - especially if Dior keeps on climbing. Its overtaken Manchild on Apple for Instance and is closing the lead on Spotify.

3 minutes ago, Liam Sota said:

Don’t really think that’s a good point since most of its streams came from elsewhere in the world. It did a lot better in other countries

Better than all of those other songs though? It made 4 year end charts that I can see: Australia, Belgium (Wallonia), Canada & USA. In every single one of those lists, at least 3/9 of the other songs placed higher (7 of them in Australia). Everywhere you look it's the same chart run, high debut and then sputters out without really stabilising at any point. It couldn't hold in the top 50 for more than 13 weeks anywhere, even in Canada where it was a #1 hit. The main point is that a lot of the time even when it seems certain that songs don't have legs, it doesn't always pan out that way.