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    This is something the head of ARIA has actually said years ago. They were hesitant to introduce these kinds of rules because the reality of the situation is that local music was continuing to perform

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I haven't looked totally close to this, but at first glance the Album charts would have at least 19 Albums excluded from it's current Top 50 and the Australian Artist charts would be almost wiped, at least in the singles area. It is certainly a different approach then the much maligned ACR rules currently in place in the UK.

Sounds good for them, the main purpose is to protect their own artists and also give them more exposure which is definitely important! I don’t think the UK has quite the same issue as plenty of our artists are still charting. It may be that they implement something similar in the future as the charts are becoming less interesting to follow, despite their being so much new music out there!

This would be a great change for the singles chart here (especially in December!...)

It's a good move not that I closely follow the ARIA chart too much these days, I imagine a similar rule here could perhaps benefit UK based artists too who haven't quite got the pull as acts like say Dua who are global.

I'd be here for something like that in the UK but say maybe 5 years as opposed to 2! As for the album charts though I really feel like they should just move Greatest Hits to the compilation or have a separate chart for those it's those kind of albums that bother me more so than studio albums what are years old but still genuinely popular. Hits albums have always had appeal but not to the extent of today!

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Consider me curious to see how it plays out, but I suspect this isn't the Hail Mary it appears to be, for those whom it's a concern (much rather the chart to be unfiltered personally). If there's a global sentiment that Australia's charts are slower than the rest of the world, I suspect no one's compared the raw data to other charts, which is to say that this is true even excusing chart idiosyncrasies. We always have less & lower entries on Fridays than everywhere else, and far more oldies on our Spotify charts. I think a combination of us being so isolated and our ahead time zone means that we aren't treated to the same degree of promotion, and all our global news cycles come through either while we're sleeping or a day late, so there just isn't the same urgency to it. Even Aotearoa's charts are faster than ours, although I might pin that down to it being a far smaller country, which allows things to spread more quickly. Anyone who thinks that "Iris" and "Dreams" are singlehandedly hiding new Australian hits from us are going to be very disappointed to learn it's not the case, you'd more likely just pull back in songs like "I Love You, I'm Sorry" or "Not Like Us" to put a few more superficial top 50 weeks on their resumes.

More pressingly though, I feel like we're gonna see some peculiar cases when exclusions fall under awkward timing. Unless the label intervened, I believe "Pink Pony Club" would have run out its 10 week grace period before it even hit the top 50, so it would end up as a #52 hit, never allowed to reach #2 like it did in reality. More likely to get screwed over though would be "Cruel Summer", a song that meandered in the top 10 for ages before belatedly hitting #1. Either you get a chart run that ends pre-maturely, or they try to stitch it together and you get an inane two-part chart run where the song just gets to re-enter at #1, who wants that? No doubt we'll just be treated to further examples that test the cut off points of these rules and make an even messier chart that just desensitizes you to a lot of activity that feels artificial, because you know it doesn't reflect consumer habits correctly.

Just look in Billboard Hot 100, there is the same problem everywhere.

All charts are very very slow in streaming era and non-interesting for following.

I hope the OCC do something similar to this. Stop 'Mr. Brightside' from hogging the Top 100. kink

Edited by AllStarBySmashMouth

Whilst I will be glad to see the back of songs like Dreams in the top 50, I am not sure this will create the boost for new music breaking through that they hope it will.

Ideally would see more pressure on the streaming providers to include more local artists in prominent playlists, as I am not sure removing old songs from the chart would make a difference to the actual sales/streams of the songs that fill their slots. Not sure how any enforcement on the streaming providers would work in practice still.

18 minutes ago, GTH said:

Ideally would see more pressure on the streaming providers to include more local artists in prominent playlists, as I am not sure removing old songs from the chart would make a difference to the actual sales/streams of the songs that fill their slots. Not sure how any enforcement on the streaming providers would work in practice still.

This is something the head of ARIA has actually said years ago. They were hesitant to introduce these kinds of rules because the reality of the situation is that local music was continuing to perform worse and worse (haven't had an Australian #1 single since 2022, haven't had a top 10 since early 2024, haven't had a top 20 since late 2024, last new top 50 hit was in February I think). The fact that I see people in the US & UK clambering for new stipulations just shows that putting a band-aid over a decelerating chart does nothing to mitigate it, it only hides it temporarily.

The only way this changes anything for local artists is if it incentivises their labels to promote their singles more, but if they need the published side of the ARIA Chart to do that, then that's a bigger story than anything else here. Would you rather have a #45 hit that moves 2,000 units or a #55 hit than moves 4,000 units?

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