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15 hours ago, Paramore said:

They really like their Morgan Wallen. I don't get it

UK have Ed Sheeran so it's pretty even

18 hours ago, Jessie Where said:

I can't see how that'll achieve anything other than pushing all those perennial Greatest Hits mainstays even higher week upon week. I think it's fair to say Bieber just isn't performing exceptionally well, and that's being reflected.

Actually, if the Official Chart Company counted all the streams equally, the hit studio albums would benefit more than the GHs and the latter would probably chart lower than they do now as the current hits would give advantage to studio albums. It's pretty hopeless without three decent streaming hits for studio albums like we saw with Beyoncé's latest for instance: a big #1 hit (Texas Hold 'em) but only 7 weeks in top 20 for the album because the streams of that one hit didn't really count.

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  • Including all the streams feels like stat padding for the sake of it. It's a decent system as is, GH stuff is interesting to track in its own right but I largely just don't categorise it the same way

  • Neither did poor Dior which dropped so hard to Number 1.

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don't think so, it would continue benefitting GH too. The issue with the Gh is the double counting, not that.

regarding Beyonce, it's her own fault really. She's the one that abandoned the album on release date. Same as Radical optimism and many others.

Including all the streams feels like stat padding for the sake of it. It's a decent system as is, GH stuff is interesting to track in its own right but I largely just don't categorise it the same way when I look at it. I'm just thinking of how you get cases like The Chainsmokers' "Collage" EP, where 95% (real number, I don't exaggerate for effect) of its streams come from two songs. In the US, it's been granted a double platinum cert and is close to triple. It makes the Electronic Albums EOY top 10 every single year while 2 of its 5 tracks generate 10,000 global streams a day. In Australia and the UK, it has a more fair, modest Gold & Silver certification respectively, and I suspect the other tracks were more popular in these countries. That feels more right to me. It's frustrating to look at album certs in the US and just see them as a sum of the hit song certifications divided by 10, because that's basically what they are.

Or another example, the Spotify streaming totals of each Radiohead album, with and without the top 2 tracks included. I think the latter paints a better picture of the more popular albums (unless we're algorithmically creating a generation of Pablo Honey diehards..), and that shouldn't that be what album charts are trying to do??
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On 14/07/2025 at 21:38, Paramore said:

They really like their Morgan Wallen. I don't get it

Come to Ireland where the country is obsessed with Zach Bryan! He sold 3 sell out nights for 180,000 fans recently in Dublin. Ireland has a population of 5M. UK approximately 13 times bigger at 65M. Imagine him filling Wembley 39 times...that's the equivalent proportion!! Ireland was previously nuts about Garth Brooks...people give out about the poor turnover of the UK charts but the Irish charts are even more static as the population follow a smaller pool of musicians fanatically and for longer!

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Music Week Top 40 Sales Flash

Singles

right 01 MK feat. Chrystal - Dior (26,658)

right 02 Sabrina Carpenter - Manchild (22,775)

up 03 Calvin Harris & Clementine Douglas - Blessings (20,848)

up 04 Ed Sheeran - Sapphire (19,466)

ne 05 Justin Bieber - DAISIES

up 06 Fred again.., Skepta & PlaqueBoyMax - Victory Lap

up 07 Alex Warren - Ordinary

up 09 Skye Newman - Family Matters

up 10 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things

up 11 Olivia Dean - Nice to Each Other

up 13 HUNTR/X, EJAE, AUDREY NUNA, REI AMI & KPop Demon Hunters Cast - Golden

up 15 Benson Boone - Mystical Magical

up 16 Oasis - Don't Look Back in Anger

up 17 Rossi. & Jazzy - High on Me

up 18 Oasis - Live Forever

ne 19 BLACKPINK - JUMP

up 21 Disco Lines & Tinashe - No Broke Boys

up 23 Lola Young - One Thing

up 25 Saja Boys, Andrew Choi, Neckwav, Danny Chung, Kevin Woo, samUIL Lee & KPop Demon Hunters Cast - Your Idol

up 27 Myles Smith - Nice to Meet You

up 30 HUNTRX, EJAE, AUDREY NUNA, REI AMI & KPop Demon Hunters Cast - How It’s Done

ne 31 Justin Bieber - ALL I CAN TAKE

up 33 Morgan Seatree & Florence + the Machine - Say My Name

ne 34 Justin Bieber - YUKON

up 35 Levi Heron - The Glen

up 36 Lola Young - Messy

up 38 WizTheMc & bees & honey - Show Me Love

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

ne 01 Wet Leg - moisturizer (18,472) [15,716 physicals, 1,270 downloads, 1,486 streaming]

down 02 Oasis - Time Flies... 1994-2009 (12,840)

down 03 Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory? (9,439)

ne 04 Justin Bieber - SWAG (9,059)

ne 05 Amy Macdonald - Is This What You've Been Waiting For? (8,090)

ne 07 Barry Can't Swim - Loner

ne 10 Burna Boy - No Sign of Weakness

up 14 Elton John - Diamonds

ne 15 Clipse, Pusha T & Malice - Let God Sort Em Out

ne 29 Steve Hackett - The Lamb Stands Up Live at the Royal Albert Hall

ne 30 GIVĒON - BELOVED

re 31 Stereophonics - Decade in the Sun: Best of Stereophonics

up 33 Queen - Greatest Hits

up 35 Calvin Harris - 96 Months

re 37 Bob Marley & the Wailers - Legend

ne 40 Jethro Tull - Still Living in the Past

Ooh wonder if just can jump 1 of the Oasis and finish top 3

Sapphire looking good for a repeak this week

maybe an outside chance Sabrina will catch Amy and keep her streak

Do you think Time Flies... can stay at #1 in the end ?

Compared with first midweeks : +3k for Wet Leg, +5k for Oasis who's coming back tonight in Manchester (so probably a surge in streams today AND tomorrow).

Last week, Oasis did same figures in Wednesday midweeks : 12,796 units for Time Flies... (which finished with 21,015 units), 9,868 units for Morning Glory (which finished with 15,733 units).

Tomorrow’s streams don’t count so that doesn’t matter

SWAG should finish top 3 in the end then, and I hope Amy Macdonald can hold in the top 5, it's a great album!

2 minutes ago, Maestro said:

Tomorrow’s streams don’t count so that doesn’t matter

I didn't know that !

That's absurd, so Thursday streams are counted in Friday units ? lol

It may explain why Sunday streams are not included in Monday midweeks...

5 minutes ago, D-P said:

I didn't know that !

That's absurd, so Thursday streams are counted in Friday units ? lol

It may explain why Sunday streams are not included in Monday midweeks...

They’re “estimated” - but the way that they are estimated is terrible and doesn’t take into account any important events.

This has been seen multiple times with Christmas songs, Halloween songs, Three Lions, Fleetwood Mac songs after Christine McVie’s death where the given event has no effect on the estimated streams.

Hopefully nice to each other overtakes beautiful things too

2 hours ago, Ongarboy said:

Come to Ireland where the country is obsessed with Zach Bryan! He sold 3 sell out nights for 180,000 fans recently in Dublin. Ireland has a population of 5M. UK approximately 13 times bigger at 65M. Imagine him filling Wembley 39 times...that's the equivalent proportion!! Ireland was previously nuts about Garth Brooks...people give out about the poor turnover of the UK charts but the Irish charts are even more static as the population follow a smaller pool of musicians fanatically and for longer!

The population is near 8m now. But yeh they love their country music shite, a lot of red necks over here!

I don’t have a problem with Greatest Hits, but a lot of the time, people aren’t even listening to these albums, it’s just they’ve streamed a ‘Hits’ playlist for that artists. Look at Madonna, her whole catalog streams were directed to a remix album? No one is actually listening to that remix album, but it’s Madonna’s highest selling album in years.

How is Beautiful Things top 10 Again?!

7 minutes ago, Lukuzz said:

How is Beautiful Things top 10 Again?!

Everything else above it going acr and it not 😂

13 hours ago, Steve201 said:

The population is near 8m now. But yeh they love their country music shite, a lot of red necks over here!

Our population is only 5.3m, even with the North included it's only over 7m.

8 hours ago, Rob said:

Our population is only 5.3m, even with the North included it's only over 7m.

Thought I previously saw we had hit the pre famine population level but it’s 7.1m as of 2023!

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